New Town Center Development Announced

Started by spuwho, February 13, 2015, 09:05:15 PM

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edjax

#15
February 16, 2015, 10:22:14 AM
Quote from: spuwho on February 15, 2015, 11:12:52 PM
Preferred Growth Properties is one of the three business unit of Books-A-Million, along with traditional book retailing and online retailing. The real estate business owns, develops and leases commercial retail estate.

That's one tenant.

They just bought Mandarin South at San Jose and Loretto and are redeveloping it.  So if you need to benchmark them, they already have another parcel under development.

Nothing to date had been done at Mandarin South. 

IrvAdams

#16
February 16, 2015, 11:48:43 AM
Quote from: tufsu1 on February 15, 2015, 09:55:40 PM
from what I hear, the developers are considering a multi-use path through the site....I doubt that will have much effect on their required concurrency mitigation though

Such a path would most likely get a lot of usage, especially by UNF students. The Town Center is a popular destination for them.
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thelakelander

#17
February 16, 2015, 11:57:37 AM
Such a path would only be on the development's property. UNF would still be a few miles east.
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pierre

#18
February 16, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
Exiting JTB onto Gate Parkway is an absolute nightmare at almost any time of day. With no changes planned, I cannot imagine how much worse it will be.

I do not go to the SJTC much, but when I do I take the other entrance from the UNF side.

spuwho

#19
February 16, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
Apparently someone got pretty upset with the local coverage.  Cantrell & Morgan have pulled down any mention of the project. Preferred Growth Properties and Books A Million aren't returning calls.

Chip Skinner himself confirmed it was under contract to Karen Mathis at the Record, so I am not sure why the project is going back under the sheets.


spuwho

#20
February 17, 2015, 08:49:48 AM
The reporting on this proposed development went negative on WOKV this morning.  Annaleise Delgado reported on potential traffic issues.

pierre

#21
February 17, 2015, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: spuwho on February 17, 2015, 08:49:48 AM
The reporting on this proposed development went negative on WOKV this morning.  Annaleise Delgado reported on potential traffic issues.

I don't see how anybody can think otherwise. It is such a mess already.

thelakelander

#22
February 17, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
As far as future roadway projects in the area go, FDOT will begin work on their next tolled Express Lane project on I-295, from JTB to SR 9B, in a year or so.  This project also extends along JTB from Gate Parkway and Kernan interchanges.  More traffic fun on the way!
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

spuwho

#23
February 17, 2015, 11:27:06 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on February 17, 2015, 10:18:48 AM
As far as future roadway projects in the area go, FDOT will begin work on their next tolled Express Lane project on I-295, from JTB to SR 9B, in a year or so.  This project also extends along JTB from Gate Parkway and Kernan interchanges.  More traffic fun on the way!

FDOT is currently installing the supporting infrastructure for the tolling lanes now. Fiber and electrical.

spuwho

#24
February 17, 2015, 11:35:56 AM
Quote from: pierre on February 17, 2015, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: spuwho on February 17, 2015, 08:49:48 AM
The reporting on this proposed development went negative on WOKV this morning.  Annaleise Delgado reported on potential traffic issues.

I don't see how anybody can think otherwise. It is such a mess already.

The issue is that SJTC only has 2 primary ingress and egress points. This worked great for Ben Carter becuase he was able to "back up" the overall site plan into the NW quadrant of the JTB/295 interchange. Most modern regional retail centers have circumferential ingress/egress points to facilitate traffic flow.

Now that it has been built, it would be interesting to benchmark current traffic flows against what the planners had calculated back in 2004.

thelakelander

#25
March 03, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

tufsu1

#26
March 03, 2015, 08:43:16 AM
^ at a minimum, I would like to see the median on Town Center Parkway extended out through the crosswalks....thereby providing another refuge for pedestrians crossing the larger intersections.

KenFSU

#27
March 03, 2015, 09:17:18 AM
The St. Johns Town Center has been open for TEN YEARS this month.

Does that seem crazy to anyone else?

Keith-N-Jax

#28
March 03, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
Yeah doesn't seem that long. I've only been there twice.

cline

#29
March 03, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on March 03, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
Their proposed transportation improvements....


http://jacksonville.com/business/2015-03-02/story/better-traffic-flow-envisioned-st-johns-town-center

That's not really any different from what they have now.  There is currently two right turn lanes from Gate (NB) onto Town Center Pkwy (although one is not channalized).  All they are really doing is adding an additional through lane on TCP.  This will do nothing to address the horrible merge issue coming off of JTB onto Gate Parkway for vehicles trying to turn right onto TCP which is the major malfunction with that area.
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