San Marco Publix project still alive

[thelakelander]

^So a land use change would be needed to build apartments instead of condos?  I wonder if San Marco residents would be opposed?

[Tacachale]

^Good question. I think most would just be happy to finally get some movement on the grocery story.

[CityLife]

^So a land use change would be needed to build apartments instead of condos?  I wonder if San Marco residents would be opposed?

Where do you see something about a land use change? Article reads as if they have to amend the PUD.

[thelakelander]

My bad. I should have mentioned a zoning change since the PUD would have to be modified to allow apartments.

[CityLife]

Haha. Threw me off for a second.  I'd imagine market forces will necessitate a design that isn't quite as high end as the original. Unless they dramatically alter the site plan or request more density, I can't see how there would be much of an arguement against amending the PUD though. It is Jacksonville, so I guess you never know.

[dougskiles]

The total property is about 5 acres and land use is CGC which means a maximum density of 40 per acre.  If they want to build more than 200 units (+/- depending on actual acreage), they will have to do a land use change - just like St Johns Village in Avondale.  Except for the Publix, the economics of these two projects are similar.  Both originally had high end condos and are now planning luxury apartments.

My guess is that as long as they provide enough parking for the commercial and residential onsite, and they follow the general building form outlined in the approved PUD that they will be supported by a majority of the neighborhood.

[thelakelander]

Public to weigh in on changes to East San Marco Publix deal

The San Marco neighborhood will have the opportunity to weigh in on the East San Marco Publix Supermarkets Inc. development proposed at the corner of Hendricks Avenue and Atlantic Boulevard.
Councilwoman Lori Boyer has organized a town hall meeting for residents at 7 p.m. Oct. 10 at the Baylis Community Center.

full article: http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/09/30/public-to-weigh-in-on-changes-to-east.html

[acme54321]

Publix can't get here soon enough.

[thelakelander]

Anyone going to this tonight? It's my son's birthday, so I won't be able to make it tonight but I'm interested in learning about the latest news concerning this project.

[Captain Zissou]

^ I wish. I've got family in town, otherwise i'd be front and center. Hopefully Doug can make it and report back.

[Tacachale]

I've got class and the wife has work. However some of my neighbors are going so hopefully they can report back.

[jcjohnpaint]

going to a lecture at fscj kent. 

[edjax]

Per story on JBJ:

Oct 10, 2013, 8:40pm EDT
First glimpse, details of long-awaited San Marco
Ashley Gurbal Kritzer
Reporter-
Jacksonville Business Journal
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The updated plans for the East San Marco Publix development includes more residential units and less boutique retail space than the project proposed half a decade ago.
San Marco residents met with developers Whitehall Realty LP, Regency Centers Corp. and St. Joe Co. on Thursday in a town hall meeting coordinated by Councilwoman Lori Boyer.
The project was largely well received by the residents attending the meeting, with traffic in the surrounding neighborhoods the largest concern. Several applauded the developers' design and had positive comments about the mixed-use concept.
The Business Journal first reported the deal was back in motion, and Whitehall was in talks with the developers on Sept. 10
St. Joe and Regency entered a joint venture partnership in 2006 to pursue the project, which was put on hold by the recession. Jacksonville-based Whitehall is joining the team to develop the apartment component of the project.
The project now includes 240 apartments in four and five stories over a 30,000-square-foot Publix Supermarkets Inc. store and 14,000 square feet of small-shop boutique space. Like the original proposal, the building will be Mediterranean style with a blend of glass, stucco and stone.
The original proposal called for 125 condominiums and 27,000 square feet of small-shop space. The Publix is the same as first proposed, the same urban footprint as the grocer's Riverside store.
There will be 570 parking spaces, with a wrapped parking structure so residents can park on the same level as their apartment.
The development also includes an enclosed pool deck.
John Carey, managing partner of Whitehall, said the apartments will average 900 square feet.

[thelakelander]

The JBJ has a few renderings of what this project may look like:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2013/10/10/east-san-marco-publix-largely-accepted.html?s=image_gallery

I notice that the number of units has increased to 240 instead of the original 125. The JBJ article states the project was largely well received by the residents.   It's very interesting to see how this project is being received compared with the Commander.

[dougskiles]

If the total in the JBJ is correct, the number of units on 5.00 acres is 275 (240 apts + 35 townhomes) plus 44,000 SF retail.

St Johns Village is proposing 260 units and 10,000 SF retail on 5.86 acres, just for comparison.

I wasn't able to make the meeting last night, but met with John a couple of weeks ago.  I am in full support of his project.  Nobody seems to have an issue with the density increase.  The merchants are thrilled because they see that many more new customers.

The only real issue to work out is traffic operations for residents leaving the garage in the morning.  The developer's traffic consultant will be meeting with several of us next week, including the Landon principal and leaders of the Safe Routes to School effort, to work out a solution.