Nocatee's Town Center Revealed

[north miami]

DCA challenged the DRI and comp. plan...but they reached agreement

DCA far from ideal in many cases.Of course prone to political winds.....recall DCA staffer Charlie Gauthier invited to leave....then he returned.We cold fill many pages with posts on the episodes.

Many have reached a conclusion:Hometown Democracy.

Many unreported insights.

MJ lucky to have tufsu outlook- the outlook that has helped create the landscape we deserve.

[donisarockiesfan]

First of all Floridafurier, Nocatee is all of a few years old, so I think all the the shortcomings in the arts department might be a bit premature. Besides I can always rent Alvin and the Chipmunks and enjoy my culture right in my own entertainment room. I know that listening to PBS makes you feel like you actually are intelligent, but as someone who grew up in the San Francisco area ( I mention that just to throw out my pseudo intellectual credentials-when in Rome.....)  , I can assure you that all of the things you mentioned-most all the  " truly" educated people- are either all secretly hiding in the top secret Opera houses ( that's opera houses- outhouses do not qualify) that litter the "downtown core". ( god isn't that an annoying phrase- but it makes me feel so urban when I say it)or they don't exist.  I think you need to step down out of Mom's attic , and realize that everyone is just not as cultured as you are in your own mind. Now if you'll excuse me , alvin, ALvin ALVINNNNN!!!!!! God that's funny stuff!

[JaxNative68]

just what Jacksonville needs to have more people and business move away from downtown.

um...most of the people attracted to Nocatee aren't exactly urban dwellers anyway...in fact, many of the residnts will likely be newcomerts to the area...if the market grows, there's room enough for both Nocatee and the core to flourish.

Any suburban office/retail park within a twenty minute drive of downtown is competition for downtown.

[tufsu1]

DCA challenged the DRI and comp. plan...but they reached agreement

DCA far from ideal in many cases.Of course prone to political winds.....recall DCA staffer Charlie Gauthier invited to leave....then he returned.We cold fill many pages with posts on the episodes.

Many have reached a conclusion:Hometown Democracy.

Many unreported insights.

MJ lucky to have tufsu outlook- the outlook that has helped create the landscape we deserve.

northmiami...do you think Hometown Democracy is the answer?

[tufsu1]

just what Jacksonville needs to have more people and business move away from downtown.

um...most of the people attracted to Nocatee aren't exactly urban dwellers anyway...in fact, many of the residnts will likely be newcomerts to the area...if the market grows, there's room enough for both Nocatee and the core to flourish.

Any suburban office/retail park within a twenty minute drive of downtown is competition for downtown.

maybe so...but Nocatee is at least 30 minutes from downtown.

[JaxNative68]

not the way I drive

[samiam]

Nocatee is an ecological disaster on par with the distruction on the amazon rain forest. All new development needs to stop. The tax dollars used to build the infrastructures for this POS is a total waste and does nothing but line the pockets of the developers. If the relaters are telling the buyers that it is a green community its a pack of lies. The area that Nocatee sits on was a beautiful unspoiled Florida woodland now its nothing but more sprawl. People need to understand that the greenest house is a house already built not a new cookie cutter stucco POS

[tufsu1]

While I'm not moving to Nocatee anytime soon, very few public tax dollars have ben used for the project....for example, all of the roads (including the flyover being built on US 1 right now) are funded by the developer!

[Overstreet]

..............Any suburban office/retail park within a twenty minute drive of downtown is competition for downtown.

Just which national retailer will be lured away from down town to Nocatee?

[samiam]

MY predictions
Nocatee
1999, It is sure is nice to go for a nice bike ride though the wood
2010,  they are fixing this place up, look at all the new building and stores,
2022 , boy is this place a dump

Downtown Jacksonville
1999, boy is this place a dump
2010, they are fixing this place up, look at all the renovation going on
2022, it sure is nice to ride my bike from home to work along tree lined streets

[Sportmotor]

Nocatee..heh it disgusts me how much wooded area they cleared and destroyed for that large waist.

[donisarockiesfan]

yeah, there is not enough slash pine in Florida.

[floridaforester]

yeah, there is not enough slash pine in Florida.

Actually, you're right, there is not enough slash pine in Florida to offset the carbon dioxide that folks like you emit every time you hop in your Hummer to actually go anywhere in Nocatee or, heaven forbid, to downtown Jax for a concert or game.  BTW, please save me the "we can walk or ride our bikes to the town center" argument because I'm not buying it.

[donisarockiesfan]

Who cares if you don't "buy" it. I don't buy into your global warming BS either. So there you go. Just for kicks though, name any other neighborhood in the area that will have the walkability/ride-ability that Nocatee will have. Though I could care less about my carbon footprint, I hate to drive everywhere, and the fact that the community is designed to be fully connected by trails and fully self contained when finished was appealing to me. Funny thing is, this is EXACTLY the type of community you Al Gore-ites should embrace, but it's not like you guys ever actually think before you talk.

[floridaforester]

I can name many n'hoods that already have, and have had for generations, the walkability/ride-ability index that Nocatee will never have.   One that immediately comes to mind is Riverside, where you can walk to a grocery store, numerous restaurants of all kinds (OK, still waiting on Indian), shops, parks, pharmacies and a hospital.  Wow, imagine that.   You might want to check it out some time.  Just head north on I-95 and get off at the Park St exit.  Or, on second thought, nevermind just stay in Nocatee and enjoy your idea of the American Dream!  I'll enjoy mine!

Cheers and Happy New Year!