Keystone Coal files plans with Jacksonville for $100 million marine terminal

Started by thelakelander, August 19, 2009, 07:04:24 AM

thelakelander

With JaxPort out of the way, Keystone's plans for a major terminal near Tallyrand are finally moving forward.

QuoteKeystone Coal has filed plans with Jacksonville City Hall for construction of a $100 million marine terminal that would handle shipments of bulk materials such as products for road-building.

The company plans to start construction this year at the 67-acre site, which is  near the Talleyrand Port area, and hopes the first cargo ship will dock in 2010, said Mike Meyer, an executive with Keystone Coal.

Keystone Coal and the Jacksonville Port Authority went through years of litigation over ownership of the land. Ultimately, JaxPort dropped its effort to buy Keystone’s land and instead, JaxPort agreed to sell its land at the site to Keystone to resolve a condemnation lawsuit.

Meyer said that,  compared to a couple years ago, it’s less expensive to build the terminal because the recession has driven down construction costs.

full article: http://www.jacksonville.com/business/2009-08-19/story/keystone_coal_files_plans_with_jacksonville_for_100_million_marine_termina
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heights unknown

At least someone blinked in the other guys favor in this scenario which resulted in something extremely positive for that area of town and the City of Jacksonville.  I love it, Jax again becoming an industrial waste fart! (which is a sign of success, progress and prosperity)

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Overstreet

It is true that we import materials for road building. I have had some concrete with aggregate from Nova Scohcia and South America.

But I don't think Keystone Coal will be importing road building materials at that yard but rather low sulfer coal from Collumbia.

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buckethead

Quote from: heights unknown on August 19, 2009, 07:41:04 AM
At least someone blinked in the other guys favor in this scenario which resulted in something extremely positive for that area of town and the City of Jacksonville.  I love it, Jax again becoming an industrial waste fart! (which is a sign of success, progress and prosperity)

Heights Unknown
I am firstmost an advocate for property rights, but I can only agree with this statement.

Such an enterprise would in fact add jobs and tax receipts, but at what costs? Would heavy trucks now be frequenting the downtown area on a massive scale?

Perhaps we will be blessed with new heavy rail skirting Bay street.

Asphalt conveyors decorating our already limited skyline!

We need more enterprise in Jax. Is Heavy Industry what we need to improve our downtown of the the future?

Jason

I don't know.  Tallyrand is what it is.  An industrial marine area.  Its connected to a network of rail lines and is a large empolyer for the city.  Its also out of the way of the cleaner corporate city center.  I think this is a good thing for the city.

Deuce

^ Agreed. For an out the way (from the city center) port location, this is a good fit and will bring jobs and money to Duval County (i.e. Jax). As for an attractant for the creative class, it does nothing.

buckethead

Good points. The point that is really of mor concern to me is the smell of asphault lingering in the air.

Cosidering that it would likely be stored "cold", perhaps not an issue, but I have done some "cold patch" work in the past, and I'm sure a few metric tons of that stuff is going to produce a smell.

There should be a line of deliniation where heavy industry should be encouraged. My preference would be north and east of the Trout River.

In the future, a riverfront expansion of downtown Jax will likely follow the waterfront. Such expansion would revitalize Springfield as well as Riverside. Adding heavy industry, wich will be largely mechanized, will serve to perpetuate the status quo.

For now, Tallyrand will remain industrial. Should we encourage industrial expansion so close to downtown?

Captain Zissou

I think it is an adequate distance from the core that its effect will be minimal.  As far as trucks and traffic, most will probably go North or at the very worst use State or Union.  Maybe the beloved coffee smell will act as a buffer between the asphalt and the core, or maybe it will just create a really awful mixture of aromas.

Jason

Asphalt doesn't come to port ready to use.  I'm pretty sure that it is made once the raw materials are all brought together.  The terminal will likely deal with raw materials destined for an asphalt plant.

I do agree that a line would be beneficial to limit industrial encroachment into nearby neighborhoods and the city center.  We should be using such lines to limit other types of development within the metro area as well.

As far as I know the proposed location is an undeveloped piece of land between two existing terminals north of the Mathews Bridge.

Ocklawaha



Quote from: Overstreet on August 19, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
It is true that we import materials for road building. I have had some concrete with aggregate from Nova Scohcia and South America.

But I don't think Keystone Coal will be importing road building materials at that yard but rather low sulfer coal from Collumbia.

Hey Overstreet my friend, far be it from me to ever correct anyones spelling or grammar... But it's "ColOmbia". So why would that be so important to a Gringo? Because I am a citizen of that beautiful, progressive country. VIVA LA REPUBLICA COLOMBIA!

I'm so excited about the Keystone Coal Terminal I could slap my momma! Ever seen a world map with the country's sized by natural resources? The USA stays pretty much the USA that we all know and love, Japan vanishes, Germany takes most of Europe, and Colombia is not unlike Russia in size.

Largest exporter of food stuffs to the United States, 2Nd largest oil exporter, largest flower exporter, near the top of the world in just about every resource known to man.

To the uninformed, coal is just coal, dirty, dusty, rock... But what most fail to realize is that coal comes in many varieties. Soft coal, hard coal, blue coal and anthracite, anthracite being the most desireable, rare and almost smokeless when burned. It can be coked and made into an even hotter, cleaner burn.

Ahh, but that's not my point, as a Colombian Railroader, this Keystone Terminal will link Jacksonville directly to mi patria! Coal moves by rail in Colombia too. We need the traffic in Colombia's 2,000 mile railroad system, and Jacksonville needs the jobs. Being connected to a country so self contained in every need from furniture, to appliances, to automobiles, lamps, food, coffee and the list just goes on and on. For me that translates into endless trains on my F.C. Atlantico. Friendly ship captain's and crews, all eager to see the town, and at least 2 Colombians to show them around!


OCKLAWAHA

thelakelander

Quote from: buckethead on August 19, 2009, 09:48:50 AM
Quote from: heights unknown on August 19, 2009, 07:41:04 AM
At least someone blinked in the other guys favor in this scenario which resulted in something extremely positive for that area of town and the City of Jacksonville.  I love it, Jax again becoming an industrial waste fart! (which is a sign of success, progress and prosperity)

Heights Unknown
I am firstmost an advocate for property rights, but I can only agree with this statement.

Such an enterprise would in fact add jobs and tax receipts, but at what costs? Would heavy trucks now be frequenting the downtown area on a massive scale?

Perhaps we will be blessed with new heavy rail skirting Bay street.

Asphalt conveyors decorating our already limited skyline!

We need more enterprise in Jax. Is Heavy Industry what we need to improve our downtown of the the future?

Coal unit trains will use the NS rail line (between 12th & 14th Streets) that goes through Springfield to access the site.
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