Atlantic Beach hires Bill Killingsworth as city manager

[jaxlongtimer]

^ Ditto.  "Planning" is a joke in Duval.  Fake planning in the burbs and no planning in the urban core.  Just as the developers ordered.

[tufsu1]

That's the point. Just use Hillsborough County as an example. You have all the of the municipalities within it, all with their own planning directors. So, for 1.5M people, the local expenditure of planning staff is much higher.

The Hillsborough Planning Commission is an independent state-enabled agency. They guide all long-range planning in the County. Zoning and land development permitting is handled by each government. Btw - there are only 3 cities in the County - Tampa, Temple Terrace, and Plant City.

[tufsu1]

In all of the other places, you would have a County Planning Director and anywhere from 13 (Orange County) to 39 (Palm Beach County) municipal Planning Directors. Conservatively, that would be $1.45 million to $4.05 million in Planning Director salaries ($100k for each municipality+$150k for County Director). Surely little ole Jax can skimp together $200-$250k for the position and/or can bring in a few Deputy Director type roles.

Please - you know as well as I do that in these situations, the county is usually only responsible for unincorporated areas.

But if playing that game - we would also add the salaries from Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, and Jax Beach planning directors. Feel free to do that comparison between Duval and Hillsborough.

Or perhaps you're saying planning directors should get paid primarily based on population or land size of their community?

[Jax_Developer]

That's the point. Just use Hillsborough County as an example. You have all the of the municipalities within it, all with their own planning directors. So, for 1.5M people, the local expenditure of planning staff is much higher.

The Hillsborough Planning Commission is an independent state-enabled agency. They guide all long-range planning in the County. Zoning and land development permitting is handled by each government. Btw - there are only 3 cities in the County - Tampa, Temple Terrace, and Plant City.

Lol, yeah as if this idea applies only to Hillsborough County. Citylife also pointed out, that Hillsborough county is pretty unique in that it only has three incorporated municipalities. Look at Orange County if you want a "counter."

In all of the other places, you would have a County Planning Director and anywhere from 13 (Orange County) to 39 (Palm Beach County) municipal Planning Directors. Conservatively, that would be $1.45 million to $4.05 million in Planning Director salaries ($100k for each municipality+$150k for County Director). Surely little ole Jax can skimp together $200-$250k for the position and/or can bring in a few Deputy Director type roles.

Please - you know as well as I do that in these situations, the county is usually only responsible for unincorporated areas.

But if playing that game - we would also add the salaries from Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, and Jax Beach planning directors. Feel free to do that comparison between Duval and Hillsborough.

Or perhaps you're saying planning directors should get paid primarily based on population or land size of their community?

How about I add up all of the Planning Directors in Orange County? Two can play at your game. The fact of the matter is that all future planning goes through one department in Jacksonville, that does not happen in any example you could bring forth, unless they also have a consolidated city/county planning structure. All of it falls under one person for us.

[CityLife]

Did COJ ever hire a Planning Director? I saw that Miami posted an ad for their Planning Director with a salary up to $250k.

COJ's Planning Director is exponentially more difficult though. COJ has Building, Current Planning, Community Planning, Development Services, and Transportation Planning all under the director.

Miami, like many other cities has standalone Building and Zoning Department's (and possibly also Transportation) that are not under the Planning Director. So not only does Jax's Director have to manage a massive geographic area, with the most amount of unbuilt land of any city in Florida; he/she also has to manage more divisions/department's than many other Planning Directors. COJ's Neighborhoods Department is the same way. It has to oversee Environmental, Code Enforcement, Animal Care, and a variety of other divisions.

Directors of department's of these sizes, complexities, and importance should be making more than everyone except the CAO, CFO, and General Counsel on the below list, imo.

[jcjohnpaint]

Curry really took good care of Brian Hughes

[Charles Hunter]

I don't know if COJ has hired a Planning Director, but the North Florida Transportation Planning Organization (NFTPO) is advertising for a Planner (1, 2, or 3) with a range of $50,744 - $75,000.

SUMMARY

The North Florida Transportation Planning Organization (TPO) is seeking a qualified individual to develop, implement, and monitor transportation projects in Clay, Duval, Nassau and St. Johns counties. The selected candidate will join the TPO planning team to coordinate auto, freight, transit, bicycle, pedestrian, and trail system planning. This individual will work closely with local governments, transportation providers, public and private advocacy groups, neighborhoods, and local constituents. The TPO is the legally designated organization responsible for developing state and federal transportation plans and programs that address the complex needs of the two-county area as well as the local needs of the partner jurisdictions.

The whole posting: https://northfloridatpo.com/about/working-with-us

[fsu813]

Did COJ ever hire a Planning Director?

Should see something announced soon.

[CityLife]

Did COJ ever hire a Planning Director?

Should see something announced soon.

Awesome. Curious to see who they got!