Land Swap for Florida Blue & Fidelity

Started by JaxAvondale, June 19, 2019, 09:31:27 PM

JaxAvondale

https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/plan-makes-florida-blue-parking-lot-next-to-fidelity-campus-available-for-development

Also, a new parking deck available for public use will be helpful to ease traffic concerns in 5 Points. Bring back The Trolley!


JaxAvondale

Also, what piece of property is the city selling to Florida Blue?

Charles Hunter

Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 09:41:47 PM
Also, what piece of property is the city selling to Florida Blue?

Wondering the same thing. The only City owned property at Park and Forest is the retention pond.

acme54321

Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 19, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 09:41:47 PM
Also, what piece of property is the city selling to Florida Blue?

Wondering the same thing. The only City owned property at Park and Forest is the retention pond.

Yeah, are they talking about selling BCBS the retention pond site to build a parking deck on.  The article is vague but that's what I'm thinking is happening, especially with the comment about the gateway to downtown.  Seems like if all of this is happening FIS must have some serious expansion plans they aren't ready to go public with.

Kerry

When I was a City Planner we allowed people to build on top of retention ponds.
Third Place

JaxAvondale

Quote from: acme54321 on June 19, 2019, 10:38:42 PM
Quote from: Charles Hunter on June 19, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 09:41:47 PM
Also, what piece of property is the city selling to Florida Blue?

Wondering the same thing. The only City owned property at Park and Forest is the retention pond.

Yeah, are they talking about selling BCBS the retention pond site to build a parking deck on.  The article is vague but that's what I'm thinking is happening, especially with the comment about the gateway to downtown.  Seems like if all of this is happening FIS must have some serious expansion plans they aren't ready to go public with.

They definitely have some office constraints now. I know that they have some employees in other office buildings in the area.

CityLife

Quote from: Kerry on June 19, 2019, 10:40:49 PM
When I was a City Planner we allowed people to build on top of retention ponds.
This is very common in areas with high land value. You have to do an underground vault or exfiltration trenches to offset the loss of stormwater retenion.

Captain Zissou

Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 11:00:29 PM
They definitely have some office constraints now. I know that they have some employees in other office buildings in the area.

After the Sungard acquisition, their local presence almost doubled.  They have a few hundred employees in the prudential building, about 600-700 employees in the Black Knight Building, and I think some others on the southside.  If you consolidate those employees, you could have a nice sized campus.  Back in 2006, FNF and FIS wanted to put a corporate hotel or lodge between their two buildings for clients and employees to stay in while in town.  FIS has one of these in Little Rock already.  With this new land acquisition, this may resurface.  All this and I'm sure Black Knight would appreciate the extra space in their building. 

Steve

Quote from: Kerry on June 19, 2019, 10:40:49 PM
When I was a City Planner we allowed people to build on top of retention ponds.

Yep - the Lot J plan (your favorite) includes a garage on the site of the current retention pond. It isn't cheap though, which is part of the reason that garage is high.

It would be awesome to build something there. Good for Oliver Barakat (who in my opinion has an up and down review from me on DIA) for stating that there needs to be retail in a garage there.

FlaBoy

Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 09:31:27 PM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/plan-makes-florida-blue-parking-lot-next-to-fidelity-campus-available-for-development

Also, a new parking deck available for public use will be helpful to ease traffic concerns in 5 Points. Bring back The Trolley!

At this point, there is no one walking from Forest to 5 Points. There are too many other places to park that are far closer on the streets.

Exciting news in a time we need exciting news. Hopefully they plan something that interacts with Riverside Avenue while also interacting with the Riverwalk.

acme54321

#10
Regardless of what happens, it will be a huge win to replace that massive, junky surface lot on the river and put something on top of that retention pond.  Both of them are big holes in Brooklyn.  I always thought that pond was such a waste.

JaxAvondale

Quote from: FlaBoy on June 20, 2019, 10:41:50 AM
Quote from: JaxAvondale on June 19, 2019, 09:31:27 PM
https://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/plan-makes-florida-blue-parking-lot-next-to-fidelity-campus-available-for-development

Also, a new parking deck available for public use will be helpful to ease traffic concerns in 5 Points. Bring back The Trolley!

At this point, there is no one walking from Forest to 5 Points. There are too many other places to park that are far closer on the streets.

Exciting news in a time we need exciting news. Hopefully they plan something that interacts with Riverside Avenue while also interacting with the Riverwalk.

Once Park gets a road diet, I think we will see more people walking along Park. There has definitely been an uptick in pedestrian traffic since the Gate opened.

jaxjags

Let's get the new Residence Inn to drop it's surface parking and have valet only at the new garage across the street. Win for all. (If the Residence Inn ever gets built)

FlaBoy

Quote from: jaxjags on June 20, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
Let's get the new Residence Inn to drop it's surface parking and have valet only at the new garage across the street. Win for all. (If the Residence Inn ever gets built)

This. 100%.

marcuscnelson

Quote from: jaxjags on June 20, 2019, 01:21:07 PM
Let's get the new Residence Inn to drop it's surface parking and have valet only at the new garage across the street. Win for all. (If the Residence Inn ever gets built)

Maybe I'm not the right example for this, but as someone who has stayed in a lot of Residence Inns on vacation, my family would absolutely not pick one requiring us to give our car to a valet. That's a non-starter for us.
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