Hemming Park Beautification

[remc86007]

Maybe not? The homeless are notoriously bad tithers...



On a more serious note; I found this: http://www.fbcjax.com/downtown/ministries/local-missions

I know people from FBC that regularly go out and serve the homeless and partner with groups all across DT. Please don't talk, or search a website for a vague term like charity, and then make judgments. Due diligence my friend.

http://www.fbcjax.com/downtown/ministries/local-missions/

I friend of mine literally goes around helping kids who were in sex slavery through Florida Baptist Children's Homes here in Jacksonville. Trinity Rescue Mission is also closely affiliated with First Baptist and was founded by another Southern Baptist church here in town.

^Whoa, it was just a joke, as you can tell if you see that I literally posted the same hyperlink as you in my original post.

I too know people that go to FBC and they are very nice people that try to help others.

[jlmann]

not a joke:

its not that fbc doesn't do some good things and I suppose youre suggesting I searched fbc's website for charities?  not even sure what you mean there.  I haven't seen it, but I'm positive a peak at the budget would show quite clearly what the priorities are.  if they were most concerned with caring for the people jesus talked about and seemed to care for the most they wouldn't be leaving for SJC

why are the raising huge amounts of capital for themselves to move to an area that could hardly be described as needy?  spending $10mil on a new facility would probably have jesus flipping some tables.  such behavior is more akin to the Pharisees than jesus or his disciples

jesus didn't come to convince middle class people that their boring lives are meaningful.  thats the main goal of the modern church as I can tell by their actual actions and expenditures.

I've been on the inside of that scene too- these folks know just how to balance projecting righteousness while maintaining an overarching goal of building their own kingdom

mac's salary is definitely too high- but probably not outrageous.  However he seems to live like a corporate exec on the generosity of its members.  they know how to play the game.  just being so blest by the congregation

"No, I don't need that huge house in Deerwood- I make enough to provide my own housing, but thank you.  What if we take some of the proceeds from your unneeded house and reach out to the least among us?"

that's a response you'd never hear, but it would actually be consistent with what they preach

[camarocane]

not a joke:

its not that fbc doesn't do some good things and I suppose youre suggesting I searched fbc's website for charities?  not even sure what you mean there.  I haven't seen it, but I'm positive a peak at the budget would show quite clearly what the priorities are.  if they were most concerned with caring for the people jesus talked about and seemed to care for the most they wouldn't be leaving for SJC

why are the raising huge amounts of capital for themselves to move to an area that could hardly be described as needy?  spending $10mil on a new facility would probably have jesus flipping some tables.  such behavior is more akin to the Pharisees than jesus or his disciples

jesus didn't come to convince middle class people that their boring lives are meaningful.  thats the main goal of the modern church as I can tell by their actual actions and expenditures.

I've been on the inside of that scene too- these folks know just how to balance projecting righteousness while maintaining an overarching goal of building their own kingdom

mac's salary is definitely too high- but probably not outrageous.  However he seems to live like a corporate exec on the generosity of its members.  they know how to play the game.  just being so blest by the congregation

"No, I don't need that huge house in Deerwood- I make enough to provide my own housing, but thank you.  What if we take some of the proceeds from your unneeded house and reach out to the least among us?"

that's a response you'd never hear, but it would actually be consistent with what they preach

One reason why I stopped attending Celebration... and just to clarify, FBC is not leaving for SJC.

[jlmann]

granted they'll have a presence downtown.  but is there ANY way maybe they could build a $5mil campus and spend some money dt?  of course there is.  but there's absolutely more than a grain of truth about DT residents being bad tithers.

they spend money on giving their best customers nice things, not doing good

[Josh]

Empty concrete planters have been attached to what remained of permanent seating space. Looks like there's a fence around the main fountain now too.

Can't imagine how much shittier this park is about to become.

[Tacachale]

There seemed to be something going up around the Confederate monument last weekend. God, I hope they aren't blocking it off.

[thelakelander]

Probably ripping out the retaining walls so no one can sit on them, since that's an area where people congregate to play games.

[avonjax]

I don't know how everyone else feels about Hemming Park but I think it looks awful. Worse than it has ever looked. How much more awful can they make it look?

[KenFSU]

"[Undesirables] themselves are not too much of a problem... It is the actions taken to combat them that is the problem... The best way to handle the problem of undesirables is to make a place attractive to everyone else." - William Whyte

Best two words to describe what's going on at Hemming right now: self-defeating.

[Noone]

Can someone post some pics? Please.

[jlmann]

I know guys what a loss!

Before we had a wondrous and beautiful meadow of woods chips near our library with native trash sprinkled about.  There were even random rectangles of the greyest, smoothest concrete one could ever hope for to gaze upon this meadow.  And now?  No concrete to sit on and ponder the beauty of the wood chips, now themselves hidden from sight by a foreboding one inch chain, tragically hiding the wonders of this natural beauty and forbidding nature lovers from feeling the satisfying crunch of bark beneath their feet.  Most of the trash in that area is even gone.  OH! the wonders we deprive future generations of through our short-sighted actions

The 2 foot concrete border of the fountain is truly one of the most underappreciated rectangular slabs of concrete in the southeast.  And with all the 90s-era malls closing the country over, the fountains must be preserved.  In decades to come we could enjoy all the promenience and tourism associated with having one of the few examples of an outdoor "Late-century suburban child coin receptacle" at our citys core.

How could they do this to our beautiful, beautiful Hemming

[KenFSU]

^I admire your work.

[jlmann]

*doffs hat*

[KenFSU]

Heard some interesting news today...

Keep an eye on Hemming in the next couple of months.

[Tacachale]

Heard some interesting news today...

Keep an eye on Hemming in the next couple of months.

Less cryptic, please.