Hemming Park Beautification

[mtraininjax]

More protests in Hemming, perfect place for them. Lenny gets a front row seat to the circus.

[lastdaysoffla]

opinions have been made known here.  after this weekends events wonder if we hear any changes of heart or just silence until this blows over and many can return to the BS arguments re:history

I personally stand by my statements made earlier in this thread.

[InnerCityPressure]

Perhaps we are in need of a great historical sanitization... Federal monies to remove all confederate artifacts, street names, schools, towns and counties from public spaces.  Monuments to slave holders should/could be torn down.  Rename cities like Jackson and Jacksonville... perhaps Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe?  US Army bases... Fort Hood, Fort Benning.  We are in need of a deep cleaning...

I'm down with this.  At least with changing Jacksonville.  Andrew Jackson was a hateful clown.  It's like naming a current town Trumpville and not wanting to change it when he ends up cleansing the Muslims from our country.

[jaxjags]

I guess my idea of changing Jacksonville to Jax, FL wasn't so crazy after all. LOL.

[KenFSU]

Perhaps we are in need of a great historical sanitization... Federal monies to remove all confederate artifacts, street names, schools, towns and counties from public spaces.  Monuments to slave holders should/could be torn down.  Rename cities like Jackson and Jacksonville... perhaps Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe?  US Army bases... Fort Hood, Fort Benning.  We are in need of a deep cleaning...

I'm down with this.  At least with changing Jacksonville.  Andrew Jackson was a hateful clown.  It's like naming a current town Trumpville and not wanting to change it when he ends up cleansing the Muslims from our country.

I'm not a big philosophy guy, but you should read Naming and Necessity by Saul Kripke sometime. His basic point is that there is a difference between name and identity, and that words gain their power not by the rigid letters on the page, but by shared experience and context. In other words, our city may have been originally named after Andrew Jackson, but the name "Jacksonville" has gained its strength and meaning through the pooled essence of hundreds of years of our collective experience here in our chunk of Northeast Florida. Though our city's name shares seven-letters with him, Andrew Jackson himself may as well be as irrelevant to the word "Jacksonville" as {Old) York is to New York, or British statesman William Pitt is to Pittsburgh. Totally agree, "Jackson" was a hateful clown who's difficult to admire, but "Jacksonville" is a city that elected its first black mayor six years ago. A city that passed its first HRO recently. A city with the best hospital and one of the lowest unemployment rates in the state. A city that takes amazing care of shelter-animals. A city with beautiful beaches and waterways. These are the things that make up the essence of the word "Jacksonville," not the violent racist in regressive times who someone randomly decided to name the land after. You don't need a statue of the guy staring you in the face, but you also don't need to strip the city of its name.

[jlmann]

I personally stand by my statements made earlier in this thread.

I have no doubt you do.  They were so nuanced and well developed.  The progression of logic playing out like a timeless symphony.  If only Alderman Park were here to accompany you!  You two would just shut this thread right on down there pardner.

[jlmann]

I should be remembered alongside bigots and slaveholders for my belief that history should remain intact and in public view despite the ugliness of the truth? Fine.

Aw man lastdays!  If you didn't make it to Charlottesville with your brethren, they canceled the Texas A&M event!!  Argghh, zionist globalists at it again!!!

[lastdaysoffla]

I should be remembered alongside bigots and slaveholders for my belief that history should remain intact and in public view despite the ugliness of the truth? Fine.

Aw man lastdays!  If you didn't make it to Charlottesville with your brethren, they canceled the Texas A&M event!!  Argghh, zionist globalists at it again!!!

I wrote that in response to an accusation vaulted by you.

But I guess I am an INFOWARS brand^TM crazy right wing loon because I have a single differing opinion from you.


I'll go ahead and take that out of context for you and save you the trouble.

I am an INFOWARS brand^TM crazy right wing loon