Murray Hill Community Garden land being sold

[johnnyliar]

The Murray Hill Community Garden Facebook page has announced that two new houses will be built on the land that is currently used as a community garden.

SIT DOWN! This is going to be HARSH!
The owners of the land have sold this property out from under us. New owners have notified me that, as of today, we have 2 weeks to be gone before they start building 2 new houses on our garden. A staple of our neighborhood is lost. Anna and I will make use of our own yard for gardening, not sure how the rest will deal. I'm hurt to the bone!

https://www.facebook.com/Murray-Hill-Community-Garden-of-Jacksonville-514339871978601/

[Tacachale]

I'm sure there's another empty lot that can be used as a garden.

[banjo]

Stinks that location for the garden is gone but nice to see the neighborhood is growing.

[benfranklinbof]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

I feel the same.  I said this in another thread:

In a lot of ways, this has already started happening. There are homes in Riverside on the other side of Park going for $350k. The current and planned projects in Murray Hill are very promising for the area.

Commercially, I completely agree with you. 

Residentially, I think we're (Murray Hill) about to get screwed over with a glut of cheaply constructed, out-of-place looking homes. 

Selfishly and hypocritically, I really wish that MHPA as more like RAP with regards to limiting the 'style' of residential that's allowed to be built per an overlay.  Right now, developers are gobbling up all the vacant lots and throwing up absolute shit homes that can't be more than $75-85/sf to build and are trying to sell them in the mid-to-high $100ks.  Most of the builder signs I see are also property management companies.  Which means if you can't gouge them in one shot, you can gouge them monthly with rents that are in the $1k to $1.8k range for a 3/1. 

And I'm not saying that any of this is horrible from a price perspective - it's actually right in line with what you can expect to pay for any of these 1930 bungalows, but based against the quality of what you're getting, it's a joke.

[MEGATRON]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

buy it and build what you think the community will support.

[Adam White]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

buy it and build what you think the community will support.

Yawn. Dumb.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

buy it and build what you think the community will support.

Yawn. Dumb.

Nostalgia? 

[Adam White]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

buy it and build what you think the community will support.

Yawn. Dumb.

Nostalgia? 

Someone's got to do it! 

[mtraininjax]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

Contact Jason Tetlak at MHPA and tell him you want MHPA to have a stronger voice in the community. I'd agree with you, JWB and other entities are buying up vacant tracts of land and adding the cement board-ugly looking houses. City allows it as it grows their tax base, but the neighbors should have more input in the character of the homes. MH should have more brick bungalows instead of these cement board sided houses.

[paul_bcb]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

Contact Jason Tetlak at MHPA and tell him you want MHPA to have a stronger voice in the community. I'd agree with you, JWB and other entities are buying up vacant tracts of land and adding the cement board-ugly looking houses. City allows it as it grows their tax base, but the neighbors should have more input in the character of the homes. MH should have more brick bungalows instead of these cement board sided houses.

I just moved to the neighborhood and am probably going to reach out to him in the next week or two.

[UNFurbanist]

When looking at investments, Murray Hill and Springfield are kinda the two "up and coming" neighborhoods in urban core Jax and this is the primary difference. Springfield's historic overlay maintains a certain quality and aesthetic for new homes but can also be a deterrent for investment if it increases design/material costs. Murray Hill has a lot more flexibility so things can be done quicker but there is sometimes a loss of quality and style. I think this is the primary reason Springfield has taken longer to develop but I think in the long-run the neighborhood will hold on to a more quality status. There are other dynamics at play as well but it's interesting to watch these two neighborhoods develop.

BTW: Springfield has also lost a couple of community gardens to new Terra Wise homes.

[Gunnar]

But investors are building piece of crap cookie cutter homes everywhere.

Now that they're done ruining coastal areas with them....

One solution to the community garden problem would be if the community got together and bought a lot or two for that purpose.

[BridgeTroll]

ding ding ding... we have a winner....

[mtraininjax]

When looking at investments, Murray Hill and Springfield are kinda the two "up and coming" neighborhoods in urban core Jax and this is the primary difference. Springfield's historic overlay maintains a certain quality and aesthetic for new homes but can also be a deterrent for investment if it increases design/material costs. Murray Hill has a lot more flexibility so things can be done quicker but there is sometimes a loss of quality and style. I think this is the primary reason Springfield has taken longer to develop but I think in the long-run the neighborhood will hold on to a more quality status. There are other dynamics at play as well but it's interesting to watch these two neighborhoods develop.

The Commercial district in Murray Hill is much more vibrant than that of Springfield. It makes MH more or a destination. Plus, look at the zip codes surrounding MH vs Springfield. There is a big difference in $$$ for the households. If Springfield were next to Riverside and Avondale, it too would be more of a destination, but how many people really move from 32208 and 32209 into 32206?