Brooklyn's Latest Project: 200 Riverside

[thelakelander]

It will be built out of concrete:

http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/news/2016/12/06/exclusive-this-could-be-the-first-highrise.html

[tpot]

The comments calling this 10 story building a tower and a high rise......are very comical.......

[edjax]

The comments calling this 10 story building a tower and a high rise......are very comical.......

I believe the article states why it is classified a high rise as in excess of 75 feet for the top occupied floor.  Which is what defines a high rise in most building codes and fire protection agencies/ratings.  Obviously not your idea of a high rise , but best to use an acceptable term than just what each individual may think. 

[tpot]

Well, I think this really speaks to how far JAX is behind most other cities.....when a 10 story apartment building is a big deal and called a tower and a new 7-11 downtown makes the news........

[pierre]

The comments calling this 10 story building a tower and a high rise......are very comical.......

I believe the article states why it is classified a high rise as in excess of 75 feet for the top occupied floor.  Which is what defines a high rise in most building codes and fire protection agencies/ratings.  Obviously not your idea of a high rise , but best to use an acceptable term than just what each individual may think.

Yes, the article quite literally states it meets the criteria. But some people just want to poopoo everything.

[Tacachale]

The comments calling this 10 story building a tower and a high rise......are very comical.......

I believe the article states why it is classified a high rise as in excess of 75 feet for the top occupied floor.  Which is what defines a high rise in most building codes and fire protection agencies/ratings.  Obviously not your idea of a high rise , but best to use an acceptable term than just what each individual may think.

Yes, the article quite literally states it meets the criteria. But some people just want to poopoo everything.

A superiority complex often compensates for an inferiority complex.

[Captain Zissou]

Technically a high rise is any building characterized by height and constructed in a way to support that.  Buildings that must be constructed from steel and concrete to support the load of numerous floors and which must utilize elevators to convey people to the upper floors are high rises.  75 feet is where you start to run into these attributes, so that benchmark has been established. 

Above 20 stories you start to get into the area where something could technically be considered a skyscraper, but the practical description of such depends largely on context and proportions of the building.  The 22 story capitol building in Tallahassee gives the appearance of a skyscraper because it is constructed on a geological high point, is slender and taller in its proportions, and is not surrounded by any buildings of significant height.  Put the same building in Jax or Miami and it will look much smaller. 

[howfam]

Technically a high rise is any building characterized by height and constructed in a way to support that.  Buildings that must be constructed from steel and concrete to support the load of numerous floors and which must utilize elevators to convey people to the upper floors are high rises.  75 feet is where you start to run into these attributes, so that benchmark has been established. 

Above 20 stories you start to get into the area where something could technically be considered a skyscraper, but the practical description of such depends largely on context and proportions of the building.  The 22 story capitol building in Tallahassee gives the appearance of a skyscraper because it is constructed on a geological high point, is slender and taller in its proportions, and is not surrounded by any buildings of significant height.  Put the same building in Jax or Miami and it will look much smaller.

FYI-- On the skyscraperpage.com  website, "Data" tab, gives the definition of "Highrise" as a multi-floored building of at least 12 stories OR 115 ft in height. A good website with forum and diagrams. Check it out if you haven't already. It ranks Jacksonville as 208th worldwide as far as number of highrises with 63 highrises. By comparison Miami ranks  44th with 332 HR, Tampa 156th with 87 HR & Orlando 163rd with 81HR.

[Kerry]

The only term with a specific non-subjective definition is super-tall, which is anything over 1000'.  The terms high rise, midrise, low rise are all subjective and very from city to city and even across time in the same city.  Typically these are identified by their relationship to the thickness of the urban fabric.  Low rise would be anything in the 1 to 3 story range.  Midrise would be anything that makes up the bulk of the urban fabric.  High rise/skyscraper in turn would be anything that sticks up out of the urban fabric.  A high rise today could just be a midrise in 5 years if the urban fabric thickens.  As an example, the Florida Blue building in Brooklyn is a high rise where it is now, because it stand above all the surrounding buildings, but if it was moved into the urban core it would just be a midrise.

[howfam]

The only term with a specific non-subjective definition is super-tall, which is anything over 1000'.  The terms high rise, midrise, low rise are all subjective and very from city to city and even across time in the same city.  Typically these are identified by their relationship to the thickness of the urban fabric.  Low rise would be anything in the 1 to 3 story range.  Midrise would be anything that makes up the bulk of the urban fabric.  High rise/skyscraper in turn would be anything that sticks up out of the urban fabric.  A high rise today could just be a midrise in 5 years if the urban fabric thickens.  As an example, the Florida Blue building in Brooklyn is a high rise where it is now, because it stand above all the surrounding buildings, but if it was moved into the urban core it would just be a midrise.

The definition of highrise given on skyscraper page is as non-subjective as this supertall definition as it also gives numerical quantities "...at least 12 stories or 115 ft". Those are objectively verifiable quantities at or above which a building may be considered a highrise. 

[Jim]

The only term with a specific non-subjective definition is super-tall, which is anything over 1000'.  The terms high rise, midrise, low rise are all subjective and very from city to city and even across time in the same city.  Typically these are identified by their relationship to the thickness of the urban fabric.  Low rise would be anything in the 1 to 3 story range.  Midrise would be anything that makes up the bulk of the urban fabric.  High rise/skyscraper in turn would be anything that sticks up out of the urban fabric.  A high rise today could just be a midrise in 5 years if the urban fabric thickens.  As an example, the Florida Blue building in Brooklyn is a high rise where it is now, because it stand above all the surrounding buildings, but if it was moved into the urban core it would just be a midrise.

The definition of highrise given on skyscraper page is as non-subjective as this supertall definition as it also gives numerical quantities "...at least 12 stories or 115 ft". Those are objectively verifiable quantities at or above which a building may be considered a highrise. 

That is how that website defines them but there is not an industry wide accepted definition.  As Kerry noted, many entities, be them cities, construction firms, web sites, etc..., may have their own definition but none are "official".

[Kerry]

They are qualitative terms, not quantitative.  If someone is trying to apply a specific defined value to them I don't know any other way to say it than to just say - they're wrong.  It's like trying to apply numerical values to terms like "fewest", "fewer", "more", and "most".  They are relative.

[KenFSU]

Permit has been filed for Vista Brooklyn:

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-mathis-report-amazon-signs-on-the-way-up-permit-filed-for-vista-brooklyn

[remc86007]

I assume the beer garden is not going to be a public thing?

[FlaBoy]

Permit has been filed for Vista Brooklyn:

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/article/the-mathis-report-amazon-signs-on-the-way-up-permit-filed-for-vista-brooklyn

Any idea on their timetable for turning dirt?