William Stephen (Dare?) Griffin

[Adam White]

I'm saying the argument that using "girl band" when describing the Go-Go's is simply an issue of your age is pathetic. You can decide for yourself whether you think it's as offensive as "colored". I never said it was and it's clear you missed my point entirely.

Seriously, Adam, NOBODY is going to get your points until you REFINE your use of typical forum argument discussion typesets.

We're here; why you aren't?

I'm not trying to get all worked up over this - I know these things come across badly in type sometimes. But seriously - it's 2017. No need to refer to a band as a "girl" band now, even if that was the terminology in use in the 80s.

Of course, this logic doesn't hold for all-female vocal groups (like the Spice Girls, All Saints, Girls Aloud, etc - sorry, can't think of any American examples). I think those are still commonly called "girl groups" to distinguish them from "boy bands" (also called that) such as One Direction, etc.

[RattlerGator]

[1]
KenFSU, watch yourself my mustard-and-ketchup colored friend! Emphasis definitely on friend, okay?

[2]

Is Midway actually Donald Trump?

RG...thoughts?

Well, I for one loved Midway's stylistic approach. BIGLY !!!

Know what I mean, Adam? Today I am thinking about you over in London. I know you like it, and I understand why, but . . . bring your ass home, bwah.

[3]
Chris: your meeting with Stephen *and* an investigator who brags on Linked-In of "over twenty years of Investigative and security experience, much of which while in pursuit of Criminal and Civil cases for local attorneys" screams . . . wouldn't you say . . . more than mere coincidence -- doesn't it ? ? ?

In the light of hindsight, Chris, admit it -- isn't that rather braggadocious Facebook post yet another Stephen-being-Stephen moment ? ? ?

Finally,
[4]
I guess the "Change of Heart" blog post I linked had little to no effect, huh. ((( sigh ))) Well, at least the Gators won their baseball & softball games so far this weekend *and* our Track team heads to Eugene with a decent chance to win yet another national championship.

[Adam White]

[1]
KenFSU, watch yourself my mustard-and-ketchup colored friend! Emphasis definitely on friend, okay?

[2]

Is Midway actually Donald Trump?

RG...thoughts?

Well, I for one loved Midway's stylistic approach. BIGLY !!!

Know what I mean, Adam? Today I am thinking about you over in London. I know you like it, and I understand why, but . . . bring your ass home, bwah.

[3]
Chris: your meeting with Stephen *and* an investigator who brags on Linked-In of "over twenty years of Investigative and security experience, much of which while in pursuit of Criminal and Civil cases for local attorneys" screams . . . wouldn't you say . . . more than mere coincidence -- doesn't it ? ? ?

In the light of hindsight, Chris, admit it -- isn't that rather braggadocious Facebook post yet another Stephen-being-Stephen moment ? ? ?

Finally,
[4]
I guess the "Change of Heart" blog post I linked had little to no effect, huh. ((( sigh ))) Well, at least the Gators won their baseball & softball games so far this weekend *and* our Track team heads to Eugene with a decent chance to win yet another national championship.

Thanks RG.

I'm actually safer in the UK than I am in the USA!

[RattlerGator]

Thanks RG.

I'm actually safer in the UK than I am in the USA!

#%&*&%# !!!

[Adam White]

Thanks RG.

I'm actually safer in the UK than I am in the USA!

#%&*&%# !!!

It's true! I can't find the 2016 or 2017 numbers (to be fair, it's only June now), but in 2015, there were 118 homicides in London. There were 113 in Jacksonville. London's population is about 10 times that of Jacksonville...

[vicupstate]

Thanks RG.

I'm actually safer in the UK than I am in the USA!

#%&*&%# !!!

It's true! I can't find the 2016 or 2017 numbers (to be fair, it's only June now), but in 2015, there were 118 homicides in London. There were 113 in Jacksonville. London's population is about 10 times that of Jacksonville...

Yeah, but Jacksonville is CONSOLIDATED, so you can't compare the two.

[Adam White]

Thanks RG.

I'm actually safer in the UK than I am in the USA!

#%&*&%# !!!

It's true! I can't find the 2016 or 2017 numbers (to be fair, it's only June now), but in 2015, there were 118 homicides in London. There were 113 in Jacksonville. London's population is about 10 times that of Jacksonville...

Yeah, but Jacksonville is CONSOLIDATED, so you can't compare the two.

So is London.

[RattlerGator]

I won't argue the point, Adam, beyond this post but . . . that strikes me as an incredibly narrow method for assessing danger. A not insignificant percentage of killings in the United States, I seem to recall, are committed by individuals who personally know their victims and have prior interactions with them. I'm not sure about Britain. So, unless you're mixing in some rather untoward activities -- your risk of death from homicide in the U.S. is quite low.

But what I do know about the U.K. is they have been ridiculously naive about their Muslim population. So, too, France and Germany. And they are dangerously close to collectively needing our assistance once again in saving them from their stupidity. This, mind you, after decades of sanctimoniously lecturing *us* while completely reliant upon our military defense.

Much like the lectures coming from London recently with a seriously dumb ass Mayor saying "refugees welcome."

IMHO you're not nearly as safe as you apparently think you are, Adam. YMMV, and I'm sure it does. So be it.

[spuwho]

Wow, a thread on Stephen has produced;

- Midway challenging Chris on his law work
- Adam challenging spuwho on bands
- MMR challenging RG on London and ISIS

Where is Finehoe? We need one more counter to make Stephen's thread complete! No yawns, no mehs, just in your face stuff like Stephen would do.

[FlaBoy]

^ LOL.

[Adam White]

I won't argue the point, Adam, beyond this post but . . . that strikes me as an incredibly narrow method for assessing danger. A not insignificant percentage of killings in the United States, I seem to recall, are committed by individuals who personally know their victims and have prior interactions with them. I'm not sure about Britain. So, unless you're mixing in some rather untoward activities -- your risk of death from homicide in the U.S. is quite low.

But what I do know about the U.K. is they have been ridiculously naive about their Muslim population. So, too, France and Germany. And they are dangerously close to collectively needing our assistance once again in saving them from their stupidity. This, mind you, after decades of sanctimoniously lecturing *us* while completely reliant upon our military defense.

Much like the lectures coming from London recently with a seriously dumb ass Mayor saying "refugees welcome."

IMHO you're not nearly as safe as you apparently think you are, Adam. YMMV, and I'm sure it does. So be it.

I like you JB, so I won't really respond as I'd like to. On the upside, you did introduce me to YMMV - so we'll always have that.

[Adam White]

Wow, a thread on Stephen has produced;

- Midway challenging Chris on his law work
- Adam challenging spuwho on bands
- MMR challenging RG on London and ISIS

Where is Finehoe? We need one more counter to make Stephen's thread complete! No yawns, no mehs, just in your face stuff like Stephen would do.

That's funny - when I read RG's last comment to me, I wondered what happened to Finehoe. I've not seen him (?) around in a while.

[BridgeTroll]

I won't argue the point, Adam, beyond this post but . . . that strikes me as an incredibly narrow method for assessing danger. A not insignificant percentage of killings in the United States, I seem to recall, are committed by individuals who personally know their victims and have prior interactions with them. I'm not sure about Britain. So, unless you're mixing in some rather untoward activities -- your risk of death from homicide in the U.S. is quite low.

But what I do know about the U.K. is they have been ridiculously naive about their Muslim population. So, too, France and Germany. And they are dangerously close to collectively needing our assistance once again in saving them from their stupidity. This, mind you, after decades of sanctimoniously lecturing *us* while completely reliant upon our military defense.

Much like the lectures coming from London recently with a seriously dumb ass Mayor saying "refugees welcome."

IMHO you're not nearly as safe as you apparently think you are, Adam. YMMV, and I'm sure it does. So be it.

I like you JB, so I won't really respond as I'd like to. On the upside, you did introduce me to YMMV - so we'll always have that.

I think the PM said it best... "There is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country."

[Adam White]

I won't argue the point, Adam, beyond this post but . . . that strikes me as an incredibly narrow method for assessing danger. A not insignificant percentage of killings in the United States, I seem to recall, are committed by individuals who personally know their victims and have prior interactions with them. I'm not sure about Britain. So, unless you're mixing in some rather untoward activities -- your risk of death from homicide in the U.S. is quite low.

But what I do know about the U.K. is they have been ridiculously naive about their Muslim population. So, too, France and Germany. And they are dangerously close to collectively needing our assistance once again in saving them from their stupidity. This, mind you, after decades of sanctimoniously lecturing *us* while completely reliant upon our military defense.

Much like the lectures coming from London recently with a seriously dumb ass Mayor saying "refugees welcome."

IMHO you're not nearly as safe as you apparently think you are, Adam. YMMV, and I'm sure it does. So be it.

I like you JB, so I won't really respond as I'd like to. On the upside, you did introduce me to YMMV - so we'll always have that.

I think the PM said it best... "There is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country."

I think she's full of it. No one other than extremists tolerates extremism. I guess it's an easy way to distract from the fact that she's gutted the police services. We've 20k fewer police officers in 2017 than we had in 2010.

With any luck (a not insignificant amount), she'll be out of a job soon.

[RattlerGator]

Adam, I know you wanted to open up on me with both barrels firing. Thank you for not taking that bait. In my haste, I didn't think of my comments that way (bait) but I know you are a man of the left and fully immersed in London and the UK.

I think she's full of it. No one other than extremists tolerates extremism. I guess it's an easy way to distract from the fact that she's gutted the police services. We've 20k fewer police officers in 2017 than we had in 2010.

With any luck (a not insignificant amount), she'll be out of a job soon.

To bring this discussion somewhat back on topic, I don't believe the text bolded above is accurate and Stephen's activity here is illustrative of the point -- isn't it?

The unnecessary commingling and over-emphasis of certain components here wasn't rather extreme in its own right? And tolerated for quite some time? Until enough of the principals said this shiznit has gotten out of hand?

Though I know you don't see it this way, Adam, I suspect the same thing is happening in Europe right now (winking at the clearly incompatible mixing of overtly religious affairs - sharia - with the administrative state).

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Well, I had hoped to get some tree limbs carved up in my mother's Orange Park yard today before all the rain hits -- but the radar does not look promising. Later, Gators.