San Marco Publix project still alive

Started by thelakelander, January 25, 2013, 08:31:03 AM

CCMjax

Quote from: jcjohnpaint on March 22, 2016, 06:13:43 PM
At the rate they are building apartments in the Southside, I don't think we will ever run out of people willing to move into these places.

I think there is almost a false sense of demand for apartments on the Southside.  People keep renting there because there are very few rental options in the core neighborhoods for people who want modern amenities, giving developers more reason to keep building around JTB because it seems like the demand is high, but really people don't know where else to look.  I think given options like these new San Marco apartments, Broadstone, and the Brooklyn developments, we will see more young professionals and empty-nesters migrate from the underwhelming JTB corridor to these new core developments.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

acme54321

Quote from: MusicMan on March 22, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
"Spotty houses back there?"  I take offense, sir. I own one of those and just put it under contract for $115,000.

Lol I meant spotty as in there are a number of vacant lots.

MusicMan

There are actually a couple of large undeveloped parcels back in there that would be great for a small single family home subdivision.  The church over there owns one of them..........

Bativac

But it looks like, according to the article, the property hasn't even been purchased yet. Just the property's current owner talking about how it was going to be bought by a developer... but it seems like they said the same thing last year.

Is this another press release or is something actually happening with the site this time?

Tacachale

Quote from: Bativac on March 23, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
But it looks like, according to the article, the property hasn't even been purchased yet. Just the property's current owner talking about how it was going to be bought by a developer... but it seems like they said the same thing last year.

Is this another press release or is something actually happening with the site this time?

Regency already owns the property and has for years. The deal they're talking about involves selling the whole thing to the developers, after which Regency would buy back the retail portion. This is farther along than the last (several) announcements but yeah, nothing's sure till the dirt's turning.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

Captain Zissou

On FB I've seen a lot of folks complaining about traffic and parking.  Either they aren't reading the article or looking at the site plan, or it's just more backwoods folks trying to hold Jax back.

thelakelander

^People actually prefer the overgrown blighted lot that sits there today, instead of what's proposed? Wow.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

dbjax

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
On FB I've seen a lot of folks complaining about traffic and parking.  Either they aren't reading the article or looking at the site plan, or it's just more backwoods folks trying to hold Jax back.

I'm sure that more than just "backwoods" folk want to maintain the peaceful and idyllic Jacksonville that they know and love. How dare we have to deal with the change and progress that would improve property values, social standing, regional impressions and overall happiness and convenience here?  Now where is that Sarcasm font when you need it? ;)


CCMjax

Quote from: Captain Zissou on March 23, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
On FB I've seen a lot of folks complaining about traffic and parking.  Either they aren't reading the article or looking at the site plan, or it's just more backwoods folks trying to hold Jax back.

I would say to those people, "Look you live 1 mile from downtown in a city of about a million people.  Go to other thriving neighborhoods 1 mile from downtown in thriving cities of the same size and see what you find.  You live in a part of town where more compact development is the natural progression of development.  Embrace it or move."

Traffic will certainly increase but the good thing about this site is there are many ways and many directions to come and go.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

Tacachale

Quote from: thelakelander on March 23, 2016, 11:48:31 AM
^People actually prefer the overgrown blighted lot that sits there today, instead of what's proposed? Wow.

I've heard the traffic thing from a few people. Those I've talked to that think that way would prefer just Publix without the apartments. One of my neighbors is worried about what it will do to our "quiet" neighborhood, that has trains running through it almost every hour.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

UNFurbanist

Typical fear of the unknown. Once it's built the only thing that will really change is foot trafic and better appearance. Traffic will be up some but my guess is that it would be fairly inappreciable. I agree, deal with it or move. You live in the urban core for christ sake!

MusicMan

The complaints about traffic an parking are fair, but the issues are usually short lived in that area.

7:45 am until 9am, and 4 pm until 6pm or so.  Not sure what you can expect in a popular Historic neighborhood with relatively smaller streets.


The lot is not overgrown, if you are looking at it. They have kept it cut and fairly neat.

Steve

^The other thing that is misunderstood is that the parking is "Wrapped" by the retail and residential. People are thinking that the block itself is chock-full of residences and shops, which isn't true.

It's an uncommon type of development for Jacksonville so people aren't used to it.

Captain Zissou

Quote from: MusicMan on March 23, 2016, 12:50:16 PM
The complaints about traffic an parking are fair, but the issues are usually short lived in that area.
7:45 am until 9am, and 4 pm until 6pm or so.  Not sure what you can expect in a popular Historic neighborhood with relatively smaller streets.

Most people going to work will exit the garage onto Alford Place, make a left onto Mango Place, and then turn right on Atlantic to get to the 95 ramps (as this won't be finished until 2018).  Atlantic has the capacity to handle 200 extra cars over a 2 hour span.  The publix parking may overflow the garage, but they can use the Wells Fargo lot after hours or use alford & mango like Matthew's is already doing for their valet parking.

ProjectMaximus

The Skyway connection will also alleviate parking :D