San Marco Publix project still alive

Started by thelakelander, January 25, 2013, 08:31:03 AM

blfair

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Quote from: E_Dubya on January 27, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
There is also a Shell station going in on that space. I believe the construction is for that and not the grocery/condo development.

Really? At Atlantic/Hendricks? Blocks from the Daily's/Shell that just opened?

acme54321

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Quote from: E_Dubya on January 27, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on January 27, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
I just drove by a few minutes ago and there is a drilling rig out in the middle of the site putting rod into the ground. I'm assuming they aren't just paying someone to punch holes out there for fun.  Hopefully something is going on and they're just keeping quiet.  With anof the development popping up in the core I don't see how this isn't moving forward considering (to me at least) it's the best location of anything going right now.

There is also a Shell station going in on that space. I believe the construction is for that and not the grocery/condo development.

Pretty sure there isn't, but I have been wrong once before. There is another Shell going in on Hendricks, but a mile or two south of east San Marco.

CCMjax

Quote from: acme54321 on January 27, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
I just drove by a few minutes ago and there is a drilling rig out in the middle of the site putting rod into the ground. I'm assuming they aren't just paying someone to punch holes out there for fun.  Hopefully something is going on and they're just keeping quiet.  With anof the development popping up in the core I don't see how this isn't moving forward considering (to me at least) it's the best location of anything going right now.

Sounds like soil borings.  If so, doesn't necessarily mean anything is a done deal but a good sign of progress on something none the less.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

acme54321

Quote from: CCMjax on January 27, 2016, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on January 27, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
I just drove by a few minutes ago and there is a drilling rig out in the middle of the site putting rod into the ground. I'm assuming they aren't just paying someone to punch holes out there for fun.  Hopefully something is going on and they're just keeping quiet.  With anof the development popping up in the core I don't see how this isn't moving forward considering (to me at least) it's the best location of anything going right now.

Sounds like soil borings.  If so, doesn't necessarily mean anything is a done deal but a good sign of progress on something none the less.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly when I saw it.

MusicMan

This would not have been done prior to purchase?

CCMjax

"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

MusicMan

What are they looking for? Contamination?  It would certainly suck if they found out the soil could not hold up to the proposed construction.

acme54321

Quote from: MusicMan on January 28, 2016, 08:27:02 AM
What are they looking for? Contamination?  It would certainly suck if they found out the soil could not hold up to the proposed construction.

They could be collecting samples for engineers to determine the load bearing capability of the soil.  That would be a good thing.

MusicMan

Call me crazy , but certainly they would do this prior to purchasing the parcel (due diligence...)?

blfair

I'll speculate that if they're doing analysis now, it's not a matter of if the lot is build-able or not -- it's probably more about determining an exact design for foundations/drainage whatever.

thelakelander

Quote from: MusicMan on January 28, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
Call me crazy , but certainly they would do this prior to purchasing the parcel (due diligence...)?
The parcel was purchased years ago.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

CCMjax

Quote from: blfair on January 28, 2016, 09:27:32 AM
I'll speculate that if they're doing analysis now, it's not a matter of if the lot is build-able or not -- it's probably more about determining an exact design for foundations/drainage whatever.

Exactly.  There were buildings there before so there wouldn't be any reason to believe it is really poor soils.  The proposed buildings are taller than what was there before I believe, but you determine the design of the foundations based on what you get back from the soils report typically.  Sometimes there isn't a soils report performed even though the owner has purchased the property and you have to assume a soil capacity based on similar reports done in the vicinity and have a geotech verify prior to construction, but that is typically only done for smaller projects.  There are different ways to approach it.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau

E_Dubya

Quote from: acme54321 on January 27, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: E_Dubya on January 27, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: acme54321 on January 27, 2016, 03:29:23 PM
I just drove by a few minutes ago and there is a drilling rig out in the middle of the site putting rod into the ground. I'm assuming they aren't just paying someone to punch holes out there for fun.  Hopefully something is going on and they're just keeping quiet.  With anof the development popping up in the core I don't see how this isn't moving forward considering (to me at least) it's the best location of anything going right now.

There is also a Shell station going in on that space. I believe the construction is for that and not the grocery/condo development.

Pretty sure there isn't, but I have been wrong once before. There is another Shell going in on Hendricks, but a mile or two south of east San Marco.

I must be mistaken. Not the first time, nor will it be the last.


CCMjax

About damn time!  Let's hope it's for real this time.

I love how they talk about hidden parking like it's a breakthrough earth-shattering concept (which locally, it kind of is) . . .

As for parking?  Thompson says the development will be built in a "stacked" style much like is popping up in Atlanta. The 589 or so parking spots will be "embedded" or underneath.  As you drive by, he says, "All you'll see is retail with residential on top."  He says this type of construction is more expensive to tackle, but he thinks it's right for the San Marco location.
"The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying 'This is mine,' and found people simple enough to believe him, was the real founder of civil society." - Jean Jacques Rousseau