Hogans Creek Park Master Plan

[Dog Walker]

Sometimes this city reminds me of a petulant, spoiled child that plays with a toy without taking care of it them tosses it aside when it is broken and goes on to another one.  (Metropolitan Park?)

[jcjohnpaint]

Just looking through old treads and came across this.  I have never seen this concept before.  Has there been any recent developments on this park proposal? 

[Miss Fixit]

Just looking through old treads and came across this.  I have never seen this concept before.  Has there been any recent developments on this park proposal? 

There is no funding for implementation of the master plan, although there are limited funds available for construction of a trail through the Hogan's Creek parks.

Construction of the Confederate Park Playground should begin soon - a contractor has been selected.  I have heard an estimated completion date of September but imagine that November or December is more likely.  The playground will be where the small dog park is now, with the small dog park moving to the area used by the City surveyor's office for parking.

[jcjohnpaint]

thanks that is great! 

[north miami]

Public Works. Storm water management.Annual fee.Millions.Duval County Tributary monitor program-Hogan Creek investments,improvements.Dana Morton.
Perhaps even FIND.

The waterways are a Downtown imperative,an element of awareness and empowerment.Downtown waterways are joined at the hip with "River" advocacy.A test of responsibility.

The waterways are reflective of malaise.Perfectly situated.

[Miss Fixit]

The proposed master plan is a vision plan - it is not based on reality and includes elements that will never be implemented.  There are many things to like about the plan but there are also items that should be eliminated or revised.

Cleaning up Hogan's Creek should be priority one.  Don't know how well used a trail running next to a ditch full of styrofoam cups, shopping carts and human waste will be.  Any clean up must also include a plan for keeping the trash out in the future.

Wish I had better ideas for coming up with the millions of dollars that project will cost! 

[dougskiles]

It could be done very similar to Birmingham's Railroad Park in which it was a non-profit group that led the funding effort and oversaw the construction.

http://www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2011-apr-birminghams-railroad-park

The project is touted as a success in Public/Private Partnering, something we hear repeatedly as a solution to issues in Jacksonville (how many times was it said in the debates?).  Out of a total cost of $25 million, $12.5 million was committed by the city of Birmingham.  The remaining funds were obtained by the Friends of Railroad District.  The Community Foundation of Greater Birmingham, lead by Kate Nielson, joined in the effort with a fundraising campaign known as the Three Parks Initiative.  In addition to Railroad Park, the city was also working to create Red Mountain Park and Ruffner Mountain Park.  By early 2008 they raised $15 million with $8.7 million going to Railroad Park.

The non-profit got the ball rolling and the city kicked in once they saw how committed the public was to the project.  If we truly want something to happen at Hogans Creek it will take a dedicated group to bring it to the forefront.

[north miami]

Regardless of overlay plans,the immediate waterway is important as an established stand alone item.

In fact Hogan's Creek has seen some water quality improvement thanks to the larely unheralded City of Jacksonville Tributary Assesement program.

The pulses of trash out to the River a common feature.

Square away these once obscure waterways or skip River Advocacy.

I would think too that viable comprehensive Downtown advocacy,care and concern would naturally embrace these signature waterways.

Who knows,perhaps ignoring the waterways simply part larger Downtown malaise.

By the way, I have not yet explored Hogan's Creek.
I almost dread it- my own backyard,the Southwesterly boundary of RAP,Big Fishweir Creek is reeling from it's own nasty impacts,restoration ever so slowly lurching forward.

Good to know others have their paddle in the water so to speak- incomming District 14 Councilman Jim Love made a point to tour Hogans via kayak during the campaign.

Onward!

[CCMjax]

Unfortunately after all these years instead of mixed use and nice pedestrian areas, all they have managed to produce is a McDonalds and a Dollar Store right across the street from the beautiful old armory building and right on the creek.  Not really the best choice in my mind.  At least there is some hope for the remaining properties along Hogans Creek.  Jacksonville continues to prevent good future uses of space downtown by not thinking long term and putting things that have no value on potentially great real estate like a Dollar Store or McDonalds with large parking lots . . . . also see Jail and Police Station on East Bay Street, see hideous 60's style government buildings on the North Bank, see Duval County School building on South Bank, see old courthouse parking lot on north bank, Commodore Pt Expressway over Hogan's Creek and east Cathedral District, the list goes on. 

[Noone]

Master Plan? What happened to the kayak launch at the end of Catherine St. on Hogans Creek? Who was there beside the Arlington Jaycees and Vivian Harrell with KJB on a Sunday to Make this happen? Where is the NICE Committee on this? Was there yesterday.

[Noone]

Exactly noone

When the tides are right. How would you like to do a Downtown District RICO loop in some of the most restricted Waterways in the country? Seriously.

[MEGATRON]

Unfortunately after all these years instead of mixed use and nice pedestrian areas, all they have managed to produce is a McDonalds and a Dollar Store right across the street from the beautiful old armory building and right on the creek.  Not really the best choice in my mind.  At least there is some hope for the remaining properties along Hogans Creek.  Jacksonville continues to prevent good future uses of space downtown by not thinking long term and putting things that have no value on potentially great real estate like a Dollar Store or McDonalds with large parking lots . . . . also see Jail and Police Station on East Bay Street, see hideous 60's style government buildings on the North Bank, see Duval County School building on South Bank, see old courthouse parking lot on north bank, Commodore Pt Expressway over Hogan's Creek and east Cathedral District, the list goes on.

Long term?  You think there is/was much demand for any of the locations you just cited?