Employee shot at The Blind Rabbit restaurant in Riverside

[Know Growth]

Probably so. If this is the requirement for better lighting some other areas of town would have already been lit up like Christmas trees by now.

Truly.  The area around Shands would be visible from space in the middle of the night.

Reminds me of the Old Days when some suggested the Metropolitan Planning District should extend well south! Too soon.

It is visible from space,even a bit before middle of night.Just imagine if the JEA Power Plants had been built,a wee bit West!?An area at the right time,right place.The air is better down there.

Interesting to witness rationalization, little or no differentiation.

OOOps!

Assumed Shands Bridge     

Folks from a far away state,now residing College St for a bit, have spoken with LEO after shooting- cause for relaxation to a degree. What was said?

[The_Choose_1]

JEA has already added more lighting to the area, which is great, but I wonder how often that happens after a shooting in town

http://www.news4jax.com/news/jea-adds-lights-to-scene-of-restaurant-shooting/34334352

JEA doesn't do it out of the goodness of their heart. They are directed to do so by XYZ politician.

The true sad fact is why do we wait until after a crime happens to put up better lights and security cameras? 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

...many of the businesses on the strip have set up / are setting up multiple ways aside from a direct donation to help contribute some much needed $$$$ for his family.  So if you can't decide where to eat or have an adult beverage, head on over to King St.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Goozlepipe-Guttyworks/366705693481567

[camarocane]

JEA has already added more lighting to the area, which is great, but I wonder how often that happens after a shooting in town

http://www.news4jax.com/news/jea-adds-lights-to-scene-of-restaurant-shooting/34334352

JEA doesn't do it out of the goodness of their heart. They are directed to do so by XYZ politician.

The true sad fact is why do we wait until after a crime happens to put up better lights and security cameras?

Because funding is not in place for every dark corner of the city. People would then be bitching about excessive wasteful spending.

[gerschea@gmail.com]

Even if this young man was executed over a bad drug debt it still does not justify the actions towards him. If the worst case scenario is true that he owed heroin dealers i doubt it was more than $200 bucks and a life is worth way more than that. We now have multiple kids growing up with out a dad and a family wrecked by tragedy.

[gerschea@gmail.com]

Oh, i think you misconstrue what I am saying, Stephen.  I am not passing judgment-- in fact I was kind of shocked when i heard this as I thought that things like that only happened on The Wire.  Just stating what I had heard-- interpret or attach whatever value to it you would like. I will say, though, that it is at least a bit more comforting to know someone isnt out there in Riverside just killing random strangers.  I know that might be a disgusting thought to some, but I will admit I had it.

I live in Riverside and had the same thought too, its not disgusting its natural. And yes, killings like this happen multiple times a day across the U.S. The wire did not make this scenario up, it is a very common one unfortunately.

[ChriswUfGator]

Not a very good drug dealer if he's selling to waiters and busboys for anything other than cash upfront...

[mtraininjax]

Good article about the incident in this week's Resident local newspaper. In it Steve Flores, owner of Kickbacks, says it was not drug related. The dude's father worked for Steve and the kid used to work for Steve.

[Kickbackssteve]

I actually haven't read the resident article yet. I believe what I said during the interview two days after the murder was that Daniel, his girlfriend and his mother used to work for me several months ago and his dad currently works for me. I believe I also said that I have never known any of them to use drugs or be involved in any drug related activity and that I would be very surprised if drugs had anything to do with the murder.  No matter what the situation was, Daniel was a great kid and his entire family are great people especially his father who my heart aches for the most.

[Adam White]

Good article about the incident in this week's Resident local newspaper. In it Steve Flores, owner of Kickbacks, says it was not drug related. The dude's father worked for Steve and the kid used to work for Steve.

"Facebook and the Gossip rags are located elsewhere....Sad story, no need to say what has already been said elsewhere."

[The_Choose_1]

My info came from a police officer who works in the neighborhood.  Take it for what you will....

Could be right I wonder would that cop want to go on record?

[NaldoAveKnight]

Does it matter if it was drug related or not?  A life is a life.  Unless we are living in a Mad Max kind of society killing someone over a debt is inexcusable.  Have the police found the culprit?  Or is this getting swept under the rug as another 'Jax drug murder'?  With the huge and elaborate criminal justice system of JSO/Duval county one would think that shaking down some area drug houses for information would be pretty easy. 

I can guarantee if something like this happened in Epping Forest the JSO would have the culprit behind bars in 48 hours tops.  Just keeping it real.

[The_Choose_1]

Does it matter if it was drug related or not?  A life is a life.  Unless we are living in a Mad Max kind of society killing someone over a debt is inexcusable.  Have the police found the culprit?  Or is this getting swept under the rug as another 'Jax drug murder'?  With the huge and elaborate criminal justice system of JSO/Duval county one would think that shaking down some area drug houses for information would be pretty easy. 

I can guarantee if something like this happened in Epping Forest the JSO would have the culprit behind bars in 48 hours tops.  Just keeping it real.

I believe you have some good points. But crime isn't this easy to solve, the police in all fairness have the best chance of solving a lot of crime in the first 48 hours when it comes to Murder or maybe any crime in general. Depending on what the crime is and making sure Innocent people are not being framed for something they didn't do?

[NaldoAveKnight]

Does it matter if it was drug related or not?  A life is a life.  Unless we are living in a Mad Max kind of society killing someone over a debt is inexcusable.  Have the police found the culprit?  Or is this getting swept under the rug as another 'Jax drug murder'?  With the huge and elaborate criminal justice system of JSO/Duval county one would think that shaking down some area drug houses for information would be pretty easy. 

I can guarantee if something like this happened in Epping Forest the JSO would have the culprit behind bars in 48 hours tops.  Just keeping it real.

I believe you have some good points. But crime isn't this easy to solve, the police in all fairness have the best chance of solving a lot of crime in the first 48 hours when it comes to Murder or maybe any crime in general. Depending on what the crime is and making sure Innocent people are not being framed for something they didn't do?

Not sure how finding the culprit and framing a random person are related.  This is the kind of thinking that justifies sweeping a murder under the rug because too much effort is involved in doing the right thing.  "We shouldn't do anything because we might get the wrong person." 

In situations like this it's real easy to get information.  JSO has an incredible amount of leverage in that area in terms of police informants and known drug houses. 

Until a stand is taken events like this will be our normal.  Unless we are aiming to be like Baltimore or Detroit I'm thinking we don't want it to be our normal.  Put a couple murderers on the front page and watch the murder rate go down.  Right now there's no incentive for someone not to murder.  Too many folks thinking the wrong person might get accused so it's better to not ruffle feathers and make a scene. 

[Adam White]

Does it matter if it was drug related or not?  A life is a life.  Unless we are living in a Mad Max kind of society killing someone over a debt is inexcusable.  Have the police found the culprit?  Or is this getting swept under the rug as another 'Jax drug murder'?  With the huge and elaborate criminal justice system of JSO/Duval county one would think that shaking down some area drug houses for information would be pretty easy. 

I can guarantee if something like this happened in Epping Forest the JSO would have the culprit behind bars in 48 hours tops.  Just keeping it real.

I believe you have some good points. But crime isn't this easy to solve, the police in all fairness have the best chance of solving a lot of crime in the first 48 hours when it comes to Murder or maybe any crime in general. Depending on what the crime is and making sure Innocent people are not being framed for something they didn't do?

Not sure how finding the culprit and framing a random person are related.  This is the kind of thinking that justifies sweeping a murder under the rug because too much effort is involved in doing the right thing.  "We shouldn't do anything because we might get the wrong person." 

In situations like this it's real easy to get information.  JSO has an incredible amount of leverage in that area in terms of police informants and known drug houses. 

Until a stand is taken events like this will be our normal.  Unless we are aiming to be like Baltimore or Detroit I'm thinking we don't want it to be our normal.  Put a couple murderers on the front page and watch the murder rate go down.  Right now there's no incentive for someone not to murder.  Too many folks thinking the wrong person might get accused so it's better to not ruffle feathers and make a scene.

I think you're living in a dream world if you think that putting people on the front page for murder will actually make a difference. Many would argue that the death penalty should be the ultimate disincentive to murder, yet people still murder in States with the death penalty. Murderers have more pressing concerns then whether or not they will end up in the newspaper.