FSU's Dalvin Cook charged with battery, indefinitely suspended

Started by thelakelander, July 10, 2015, 09:00:48 PM

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Adam White on July 14, 2015, 12:59:11 PM
I think it's both. Maybe not "football" per se, but football programmes. And a lot of collegiate sports programmes in general. The stakes are too high - there's far too much money involved.

I'd say that's it's widespread across all sports when it starts getting to a D1 level of play.

I've been involved with many different baseball programs for over a decade, but this is my first year being associated with a summer program that includes many 17-19yo that have already committed to play at D1 colleges.  This is essentially their 'last year of fun' as they put it, and there is definitely a different air about them as compared to the players that aren't going to play at the next level or are still in HS.

None of the young men that I deal with on a daily basis have any real life 'want' and a few even have a job, so it's not as comparable to someone coming from a much  tougher environment.  There's no real fix to the 'problem' if that's what you want to call it, but it's easy to understand when you're immersed in it.
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CityLife

I wasn't aware of Cook's arrests as a youth, my bad...That said, he was a UF commitment for 9 months and they didn't know of his issues from his early teens?...yea right. Revisionist history to suggest otherwise now. He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes.

http://fansided.com/2013/12/28/5-star-rb-dalvin-cook-80-percent-committed-florida-gators/



slide

Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

CityLife

Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

Great stuff. Dalvin Cook was already enrolled as an FSU student in mid-January when you allege UF pulled his offer. Delusion at its finest.

You might want to go back and read this article from a UF fan site. http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/12/31/5261884/dalvin-cook-flips-florida-fsu-recruiting-impact

"Cook, who committed to Florida in April, flipping to the Gators from Clemson, had flirted with the Seminoles for months, as their program rose and Florida's fell under the weight of scads of injuries.

And his decommitment is the biggest blow possible to Florida's recruiting for the Class of 2014. Cook's flip to Florida State sets up dominoes that may be knocked down in short order over the next six weeks.

Cook's got the sort of magnetic personality that makes other people want to hang with him, and is a leader — but he's also an explosive playmaker, and the sort of player who makes his team better in part by making his teammates' lives easier.


That hurts a lot, both for the Florida program and the fans that love it, not least because it feels like a sea change from a paradigm with Florida on top in the Sunshine State to one with Florida State lapping the field.


slide

Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

Great stuff. Dalvin Cook was already enrolled as an FSU student in mid-January when you allege UF pulled his offer. Delusion at its finest.

You might want to go back and read this article from a UF fan site. http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/12/31/5261884/dalvin-cook-flips-florida-fsu-recruiting-impact

"Cook, who committed to Florida in April, flipping to the Gators from Clemson, had flirted with the Seminoles for months, as their program rose and Florida's fell under the weight of scads of injuries.

And his decommitment is the biggest blow possible to Florida's recruiting for the Class of 2014. Cook's flip to Florida State sets up dominoes that may be knocked down in short order over the next six weeks.

Cook's got the sort of magnetic personality that makes other people want to hang with him, and is a leader — but he's also an explosive playmaker, and the sort of player who makes his team better in part by making his teammates' lives easier.


That hurts a lot, both for the Florida program and the fans that love it, not least because it feels like a sea change from a paradigm with Florida on top in the Sunshine State to one with Florida State lapping the field.

January 2013, genius--not 2014.  He was an early enrollee..

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/1/14/5292648/florida-state-football-recruiting

vicupstate

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on July 14, 2015, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: vicupstate on July 14, 2015, 12:16:56 PM
Or maybe the problem is boys that don't have a father or other good role model to teach them how to be men.

Quote from: Adam White on July 14, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
Maybe the problem is football - or college sports - and not any particular college.

Or maybe the problem is that there's a distorted sense of entitlement that has been a way of life since a lot of these kids were in their early teens.

That would be the symptom, not the cause. Too many 'entitled' sport participants don't end up being bad apples. A few actually turn out the opposite. In both instances, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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CityLife

Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

Great stuff. Dalvin Cook was already enrolled as an FSU student in mid-January when you allege UF pulled his offer. Delusion at its finest.

You might want to go back and read this article from a UF fan site. http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/12/31/5261884/dalvin-cook-flips-florida-fsu-recruiting-impact

"Cook, who committed to Florida in April, flipping to the Gators from Clemson, had flirted with the Seminoles for months, as their program rose and Florida's fell under the weight of scads of injuries.

And his decommitment is the biggest blow possible to Florida's recruiting for the Class of 2014. Cook's flip to Florida State sets up dominoes that may be knocked down in short order over the next six weeks.

Cook's got the sort of magnetic personality that makes other people want to hang with him, and is a leader — but he's also an explosive playmaker, and the sort of player who makes his team better in part by making his teammates' lives easier.


That hurts a lot, both for the Florida program and the fans that love it, not least because it feels like a sea change from a paradigm with Florida on top in the Sunshine State to one with Florida State lapping the field.

January 2013, genius--not 2014.  He was an early enrollee..

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/1/14/5292648/florida-state-football-recruiting

So UF pulled his offer in January of 2013, then accepted his commitment in April of 2013? Then allowed him to remain a commitment until December 2013? Your web of lies is becoming more and more hilarious. Do you work at a troll farm or something?


Bridges

Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

What an absolute load of bullshit.  I get ribbing back and forth between the schools, but this is delusional fandom.
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tufsu1

Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 01:06:36 PM
It is the truth that Cook had prior arrests (plural) and also true that UF and FSu coaches both knew about the arrests.

I am quite the fan of your use of the lowercase u....clearly not accidental....stay classy my friend!

slide

Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

Great stuff. Dalvin Cook was already enrolled as an FSU student in mid-January when you allege UF pulled his offer. Delusion at its finest.

You might want to go back and read this article from a UF fan site. http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/12/31/5261884/dalvin-cook-flips-florida-fsu-recruiting-impact

"Cook, who committed to Florida in April, flipping to the Gators from Clemson, had flirted with the Seminoles for months, as their program rose and Florida's fell under the weight of scads of injuries.

And his decommitment is the biggest blow possible to Florida's recruiting for the Class of 2014. Cook's flip to Florida State sets up dominoes that may be knocked down in short order over the next six weeks.

Cook's got the sort of magnetic personality that makes other people want to hang with him, and is a leader — but he's also an explosive playmaker, and the sort of player who makes his team better in part by making his teammates' lives easier.


That hurts a lot, both for the Florida program and the fans that love it, not least because it feels like a sea change from a paradigm with Florida on top in the Sunshine State to one with Florida State lapping the field.

January 2013, genius--not 2014.  He was an early enrollee..

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/1/14/5292648/florida-state-football-recruiting

So UF pulled his offer in January of 2013, then accepted his commitment in April of 2013? Then allowed him to remain a commitment until December 2013? Your web of lies is becoming more and more hilarious. Do you work at a troll farm or something?
Where do you see anywhere that UF coaches accepted his commitment? Coaches cannot even comment on specific recruits until NSD per ncaa rules. The only word you have to go on is Cook's and what he tells services.

CityLife

Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:50:39 PM
Quote from: slide on July 14, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: CityLife on July 14, 2015, 02:09:06 PM
'He was all set to enroll at UF until FSU flipped him due to UF's offensive woes. '

As far as you know..

Again unfortunately that is far from the truth. His offer was pulled mid-January. But whatever makes you feel better..Fsu was his safety school--just like 1000's of other prospective college students in the state of FL--second choice..

Great stuff. Dalvin Cook was already enrolled as an FSU student in mid-January when you allege UF pulled his offer. Delusion at its finest.

You might want to go back and read this article from a UF fan site. http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2013/12/31/5261884/dalvin-cook-flips-florida-fsu-recruiting-impact

"Cook, who committed to Florida in April, flipping to the Gators from Clemson, had flirted with the Seminoles for months, as their program rose and Florida's fell under the weight of scads of injuries.

And his decommitment is the biggest blow possible to Florida's recruiting for the Class of 2014. Cook's flip to Florida State sets up dominoes that may be knocked down in short order over the next six weeks.

Cook's got the sort of magnetic personality that makes other people want to hang with him, and is a leader — but he's also an explosive playmaker, and the sort of player who makes his team better in part by making his teammates' lives easier.


That hurts a lot, both for the Florida program and the fans that love it, not least because it feels like a sea change from a paradigm with Florida on top in the Sunshine State to one with Florida State lapping the field.

January 2013, genius--not 2014.  He was an early enrollee..

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/1/14/5292648/florida-state-football-recruiting

So UF pulled his offer in January of 2013, then accepted his commitment in April of 2013? Then allowed him to remain a commitment until December 2013? Your web of lies is becoming more and more hilarious. Do you work at a troll farm or something?
Where do you see anywhere that UF coaches accepted his commitment? Coaches cannot even comment on specific recruits until NSD per ncaa rules. The only word you have to go on is Cook's and what he tells services.

So wait. You are going to tell me that Dalvin Cook was publically committed to UF from April of 2013 to December of 2013 and the UF coaches never accepted his commitment? That UF media writers wrote hundreds of articles about him as a UF commit, but were never corrected?

I'm not sure this lie can get any deeper...but I am thoroughly enjoying it.

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