Maglev Train Coming to the Sunshine State?

Started by Metro Jacksonville, May 28, 2015, 03:00:02 AM

Metro Jacksonville

Maglev Train Coming to the Sunshine State?



Central Florida may soon be on its way to becoming the transit capitol of Florida. Already home to Bus Rapid Transit (LYMMO) and commuter rail (Sunrail), plans for high speed intercity rail (All Aboard Florida) could be bolstered by a privately funded Maglev rail system.

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finehoe

"Ridership and revenue projections are historically overly-optimistic."  - Governor Rick Scott

spuwho

Too many stops in the distance allotted.

I applaud the route they want service (I-Drive), but I feel its a misuse of the technology.

Maglev benefits are high speed with no friction. But with so many stops and such a short distance, I suspect this thing will never get over 30mph.

A Bombardier Innovia could do the same thing for less dough at thise speeds.


thelakelander

This is definitely, one of those "I'll believe it when I see it" type of projects. Operating a maglev as a circulator makes no sense at all. There are several technologies out there, that are more suitable, for a corridor like that. AMT's history also plays into the "I'll believe it when I see it" factor.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

CityLife

Lake, Spuwho, and others, what are your thoughts on Hyperloop? Seems like Maglev could be rendered obsolete if Musk and co can pull it off.

For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A

Quote from: finehoe on May 28, 2015, 09:01:32 AM
"Ridership and revenue projections are historically overly-optimistic."  - Governor Rick Scott

I don't think you can debate that fact. We need transit alternatives and they do a lot to bring communities together to promote walkable environments, but most don't hit projections (see in just FL - Tampa Street Car, Sunrail, Metro Rail, Skyway, etc).

JaxJersey-licious

Quote from: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on May 28, 2015, 12:47:47 PM
Quote from: finehoe on May 28, 2015, 09:01:32 AM
"Ridership and revenue projections are historically overly-optimistic."  - Governor Rick Scott

I don't think you can debate that fact. We need transit alternatives and they do a lot to bring communities together to promote walkable environments, but most don't hit projections (see in just FL - Tampa Street Car, Sunrail, Metro Rail, Skyway, etc).

Just wait until the massive I-4 construction project gets rolling and you'll see those Sunrail ridership numbers change quite a bit.

ProjectMaximus

Quote from: CityLife on May 28, 2015, 12:36:15 PM
Lake, Spuwho, and others, what are your thoughts on Hyperloop? Seems like Maglev could be rendered obsolete if Musk and co can pull it off.

Hyperloop is a dream decades from happening. Would be awesome to see sometime in my lifetime but I'm not putting money on it. I consider it akin to the 2045 initiative.

Coolyfett

Quote from: For_F-L-O-R-I-D-A on May 28, 2015, 12:47:47 PM
Quote from: finehoe on May 28, 2015, 09:01:32 AM
"Ridership and revenue projections are historically overly-optimistic."  - Governor Rick Scott

I don't think you can debate that fact. We need transit alternatives and they do a lot to bring communities together to promote walkable environments, but most don't hit projections (see in just FL - Tampa Street Car, Sunrail, Metro Rail, Skyway, etc).
Orlando seems to be pretty aggressive with Transit news, setting themselves away from the rest. If they dont Invest in the stations it will be dissed heavily like Sunrail is. One maglev line is not really enough though, but Orlando is making good moves.
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thelakelander

AMT wants to expand to Clearwater Beach someday.....

QuoteAmerican Maglev, the private company behind the proposed train system, has announced, via Twitter, future plans to stretch the magnet levitation train all the way to Clearwater Beach, out to UCF and through Lake Nona though none of those plans have even begun any form of official talks.

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/21/the-new-levitating-magnet-train-kicks-construction-into-next-gear
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

spuwho

Quote from: thelakelander on May 29, 2015, 09:38:28 PM
AMT wants to expand to Clearwater Beach someday.....

QuoteAmerican Maglev, the private company behind the proposed train system, has announced, via Twitter, future plans to stretch the magnet levitation train all the way to Clearwater Beach, out to UCF and through Lake Nona though none of those plans have even begun any form of official talks.

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2015/05/21/the-new-levitating-magnet-train-kicks-construction-into-next-gear

Sales talk.

Redbaron616

They will have their hands out for taxpayer dollars, no doubt. Exactly how are they expecting to make the route without government to force landowners to give up easement rights for it because not everyone will be thrilled about having a train zip over their property.

Redbaron616

Quote from: stephendare on May 31, 2015, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: Redbaron616 on May 31, 2015, 08:41:02 PM
They will have their hands out for taxpayer dollars, no doubt. Exactly how are they expecting to make the route without government to force landowners to give up easement rights for it because not everyone will be thrilled about having a train zip over their property.
dumb

Don't put "And now abide faith, hope and love; these three, but the greatest of these is love" when you belittle posts as "dumb". Lots of love there.

tufsu1

Quote from: Redbaron616 on May 31, 2015, 08:41:02 PM
They will have their hands out for taxpayer dollars, no doubt. Exactly how are they expecting to make the route without government to force landowners to give up easement rights for it because not everyone will be thrilled about having a train zip over their property.

by including much of the route in public right of way...i.e., the Beachline Expressway

Ocklawaha

The International American Pogo Stick Parkway or the Cross Palms Slip and Slide Splash-Pike, Will both carry more riders then the maglev. Gee I can hardly wait! CSX is going to start pulling up track to replace it with a electro-magnetic roadways as soon as they find a source for Continuous welded neodymium.

Then again, there is the monorail, which EVERYONE in Jacksonville knows 'IS TOMORROWS' railroad (gagging, suppressing  a cough and a big laugh).

SERIOUSLY? I am working on a feature story on the breaks down the destruction of Amtrak and  north American intercity passenger rail. In it you will; see that the automobile, the American cowboy,  independence, or red ties had less to do with the demise then good old American stupidity and extreme thrift.

Coming soon. "Amtrak = The Wrong Train"