Daily’s planning San Marco store

Started by thelakelander, October 09, 2014, 10:11:08 PM

thelakelander

It appears the I-95/Atlantic Boulevard interchange currently under construction may be bringing some infill economic development to San Marco.  However, from the description, it sounds like a slice of the Southside may be moving in...



QuoteBy Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor

While there is no timeline, a Daily's convenience store with fueling stations and a car wash likely is coming to San Marco.
City Council approved the rezoning of about 1.16 acres along Atlantic Boulevard at Farragut Place for the project and the city also has issued a mobility fee calculation certificate for it.

The 5,000-square-foot Daily's would include 16 fueling positions, files show.

A spokesman for Daily's, a brand of Jacksonville-based First Coast Energy LLP, said the company hoped to complete the property purchase in the next few months. The land is owned by the Southside Assembly of God and Daniel Wilensky and Cathy Wilensky.

The property is near the construction for the Interstate 95 Overland Bridge replacement project.

Full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=544051
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johnnyliar

While this is "a slice of the southside," San Marco desperately needs another gas station.

acme54321

Another gas station?  How about one at all!!  The BP on Prudential doesn't count.

thelakelander

Quote from: johnnyliar on October 09, 2014, 10:45:15 PM
While this is "a slice of the southside," San Marco desperately needs another gas station.

I don't have anything against gas stations. I'm just concerned about how it fits into the surrounding neighborhood. The site is in the middle of historic Fletcher Park.  I'm just hoping that the design isn't the typical gigantic gas station layout that's been popping up all over town recently. Hopefully, it's something closer to the 7/11 at Main & Union and not the Daily's on Baymeadows & I-95.
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mtraininjax

with today's fuel efficient cars, how can one not go an extra mile from San Marco down Atlantic to the Racetrac at Atlantic and  Hart Bridge expressway? Or make it into downtown to one of the many stations on Union or State? No, this is a pure Grocery play with Publix saying they are not going to commit anytime soon, Daily's is moving in to capitalize on the need of the less fortunate who need immediate/late night supplies. Good play by them, the area needs something like what the St. Vincent's area has with the 7/11 across the street from the hospital.
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acme54321

The parties named in the article own that entire block bounded by Farragut, Atlantic, Kings, and Olevia.  So hard to say where exactly or how big it will be.  I would imagine they would want the station on the Kings/Atlantic corner, which is currently home to the Fresenius Medical building.

I think you are right about the grocery thing.  The only time I have wished for a gas station close by is when I am mowing or something and run out of gas.

thelakelander

A typical Daily's would most likely take up the entire block.
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Captain Zissou

If this causes Fresenius to be torn down, I'm all for it. When they remodeled the fresenius building and literally turned its back to the street, I was appalled. Its a horrible use of that space and I would love to see it go. If they oriented the Daily's to face the street, or gave it any urban characteristics at all, that would be a bonus.

tufsu1

Quote from: thelakelander on October 10, 2014, 07:25:54 AM
A typical Daily's would most likely take up the entire block.

based on the article saying the rezoning was for 1.16 acres, it won't be the whole block.  I would think the Fresenius building would stay, since it was re-built only a few years ago.

acme54321

With the center of the block and Fresenius it's 2.21 according to GIS, and with the center of the block and the three houses along Farragut it's 1.14.  So no way to tell from that.  Either way some part of the block will stay.  Unfortunately I would bet it's the Fresenius building.  The church owns that and I bet they would like to keep the rent coming from that.

copperfiend

Quote from: mtraininjax on October 10, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
with today's fuel efficient cars, how can one not go an extra mile from San Marco down Atlantic to the Racetrac at Atlantic and  Hart Bridge expressway? Or make it into downtown to one of the many stations on Union or State? No, this is a pure Grocery play with Publix saying they are not going to commit anytime soon, Daily's is moving in to capitalize on the need of the less fortunate who need immediate/late night supplies. Good play by them, the area needs something like what the St. Vincent's area has with the 7/11 across the street from the hospital.

Pretty sure that is more than a mile.


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coredumped

Quote from: mtraininjax on October 10, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
with today's fuel efficient cars,

This is flawed logic. Gas is (currently) 3x what it was, and up to 4x when it's closer to $4/gal. Cars are not getting 4x the millage of 15 years ago when it was $0.99/gal.



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tufsu1

#13
^ no the flawed logic is not adjusting for inflation and picking one dip on the graph (1999).  Gas has been running about $3.25 for regular, which using the graphic above yields an inflation adjusted price of about $1.80....and yes, there are cars today (like hybrids) that are 80% more fuel efficient than they were 15 years ago.

coredumped

Quote from: tufsu1 on October 10, 2014, 10:01:50 AM
^ no the flawed logic is not adjusting for inflation and picking one dip on the graph (1999).  Gas has been running about $3.25 for regular, which using the graphic above yields an inflation adjusted price of about $1.80....and yes, there are cars today (like hybrids) that are 80% more fuel efficient than they were 15 years ago.

Well, 1999 was 15 years ago, gas didn't hit $1.80 until 2004 (10 years ago). As far as hybrids go, yeah, that's great and all, but you have to consider the horrible environmental impact and the upfront cost. Even with subsidies, they come out to cost more.
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