The Jacksonville Landing's Redevelopment Plan

[peestandingup]

Yeah, it's awful in comparison to even what's already there. I'm going to say if this is allowed to happen, it'll completely destroy that entire district of downtown.

You think you're having trouble attracting people to downtown now?? Shit, just wait. Who would want to come down there just to be able to drive through between two buildings that have a couple mediocre could-be-anywhere places to eat inside them? Oh, you're putting people in them by building condos too? Yeah, good luck with that.

And it doesn't shock me Brown is putting his blessings behind this. Apparently that guy has no taste whatsoever. Or probably whatever taste he's told to have. I'd be ashamed to even say such things as "tremendous" & "excited" when describing this stinky turd of a "vision", but there he is. Shameless.

[David]

Yeah, i'm with everyone who's against it. I cringed a little when I saw the new plans.  These new plans make the current landing look exciting by comparison.

If it goes forward the landing will be on a future write-up of "Lost Jacksonville" and we'll pine over what once was.

[KenFSU]

Who would want to come down there just to be able to drive through between two buildings that have a couple mediocre could-be-anywhere places to eat inside them?

"A couple" might not even be that much of an understatement.

The new plans call for 60,000 square feet of total retail and restaurant space (a third of what currently exists).

Let's say you block off a third of that for retail, that leaves only 40,000 square feet for restaurants and bars.

Depending on if Sleiman is including outdoor seating in that count and how large the new establishments would be, we could be talking room for as few as four or five restaurants and bars total. Hell, the existing dance floor at Mavericks is 20,000 square feet alone.

[TheCat]

Are there more renderings?

[Bolles_Bull]

Is it possible the architecture plans aren't final, just to showoff the blueprint of what fits in with the DIA market feasability study?

Id also like to hear why the extended laura street cant be pedestrian only, and what about large events like the FL/GA game, new years, wheres the big gathering space?

[tufsu1]

keep in mind the January plan was one developed based on public input...and unfortunately not at all rooted in economic reality.  Sleiman's original plan from last fall was horrible and led to the Jan. revision.

[KenFSU]

A couple of new details from the Jax Business Journal:

- The $11.8 million that Sleiman is requesting will also include demolition costs for the existing structure.
- The restaurants will all be located on the back/river side of the Landing.
- The front side of the Landing will be utilized for "service retail." A drug store and Starbucks were mentioned by Sleiman as possibilities.

[billy]

The Return of Starbucks to Jacksonville Landing! The End Times are near!

[KenFSU]

The Return of Starbucks to Jacksonville Landing! The End Times are near!

As someone previously mentioned, I'm not even sure you could get away with calling what's left the "Jacksonville Landing."

Maybe, Two Condos and a Fountain.

Featuring the hot new urban greenspace, The Landing Strip at the Intersection.

[peestandingup]

Wowee wow wow. A drug store AND a Starbucks?? Dare to dream, Landing! :/

[IrvAdams]

Is it possible the architecture plans aren't final, just to showoff the blueprint of what fits in with the DIA market feasability study?

Id also like to hear why the extended laura street cant be pedestrian only, and what about large events like the FL/GA game, new years, wheres the big gathering space?

Yes, agree with this. At the very least, leave the streets out of it. All that common area should be grass or bricked-in, etc., with some kind of seating or comfortable surroundings, or a sloped design like Metro Park. In short, a crowd-friendly space.

It should be a destination. Not a pass-through.

[downtownbrown]

Surely the mayor has seen Shad Khan's renderings for the 40 acres between Berkman and Everbank Field. I'm guessing the reason the new Landing doesn't look like a centerpiece is that the centerpiece is moving east.

[avonjax]

Absolutely no one will go downtown for this. You will never, at least in my lifetime, compete with SJTC but to reduce the retail/restaurant space into a third, forget it. Downtown will become a quaint town with blown potential. There won't even be incentive for people to go for fireworks anymore in my opinion. And Florida/Georgia Weekend forget it. May as well turn the shipyards into a giant park and be done with it.
Of course the shipyards would stay empty most of the year except from some litter blowing around and everyone will still perceive downtown is scary and dangerous.
Who are the visionaries in this city?
Looks like no one or maybe Shahid Kahn.

[Overstreet]

It's better than the last one. But still kills the thing that the media always shows during national event TV. It also puts a marina at right angles into the deepest water in the fastest current. Bad marina design.

[I-10east]

As someone previously mentioned, I'm not even sure you could get away with calling what's left the "Jacksonville Landing."

Maybe, Two Condos and a Fountain.

Featuring the hot new urban greenspace, The Landing Strip at the Intersection.

I'm with ya Ken! I totally agree with your take on this 'new Landing'. They should redo this proposal. They are turning a gathering place (albeit outdated) into a place with very limited space for non-residents. Like you said, they shouldn't even call it the Jacksonville Landing, maybe the Northbank Residencies.