Kickbacks planning an expansion

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Some highlight of the 'compromise' Via the TU:

A tentative deal was reached last month. Here are high points:

- The property owners will add 30 or 31 customer parking spaces at an off-site parking lot within 400 feet of the project.

- They'll add a handicap-accessible space in the right-of-way out front and two employee spaces, labeled, in an alley.

- The lot will be legally tied to the restaurant's operation and will have lighting, landscaping and buffers that meet neighborhood zoning rules. The parking area will have a wooden privacy fence.

- The lot has to be purchased before construction starts on the new restaurant. If the owners can't/don't acquire a parking lot off-site, they've agreed to limit the new restaurant size to one floor and 2,700 square feet.

- No music or television-playing will be allowed outside after 9 p.m., and Kickbacks' owners agreed to provide security on Friday and Saturday nights.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/entertainment/food-and-dining/2012-05-08/story/kickbacks-rap-bringing-restaurant-settlement#ixzz1uNckrpit

Maybe it's just me, but I personally don't see how this is a compromise at all.  This reeks of a one-sided deal if I've ever seen one. 

- The property owners will add 30 or 31 customer parking spaces at an off-site parking lot within 400 feet of the project.

The lots in the area are only 50/60 x 100?  You can't fit 30 cars onto a single lot, can you?  I don't believe there are many vacant lots withing 400 ft to meet that requirement.

[cline]

Actually that lot has 75' on the street and goes back 146' on the east side.  It is angled on the east side along the alley so it has quite a bit of room.  It's one of the larger lots in the vicinity.  I would assume KB has already done a site layout on the lot to come up with the 30-31 parking spots. 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Actually that lot has 75' on the street and goes back 146' on the east side.  It is angled on the east side along the alley so it has quite a bit of room.  It's one of the larger lots in the vicinity.  I would assume KB has already done a site layout on the lot to come up with the 30-31 parking spots.

You're right.  That one might do it.  It looks as though there's about 160' along the back as well.

[thelakelander]

Congrats!

[aclchampion]

I wonder how the folks who live right next door to that proposed parking lot are going to like having loud, intoxicated people starting up cars, cranking up radios and making a racket as they leave at midnight or 1 in the morning? I can see a lot of disturbing the peace police calls to that location.

[The Compound]

I wonder how the folks who live right next door to that proposed parking lot are going to like having loud, intoxicated people starting up cars, cranking up radios and making a racket as they leave at midnight or 1 in the morning? I can see a lot of disturbing the peace police calls to that location.

Intoxicated people shouldnt be starting up cars.
Friday and saturday nights there will be security in the parking lot.

[mtraininjax]

I wonder how the folks who live right next door to that proposed parking lot are going to like having loud, intoxicated people starting up cars, cranking up radios and making a racket as they leave at midnight or 1 in the morning? I can see a lot of disturbing the peace police calls to that location.

I'm bringing my bottle rockets and firecrackers for more excitement!

[Dog Walker]

I wonder how the folks who live right next door to that proposed parking lot are going to like having loud, intoxicated people starting up cars, cranking up radios and making a racket as they leave at midnight or 1 in the morning? I can see a lot of disturbing the peace police calls to that location.

I'm bringing my bottle rockets and firecrackers for more excitement!

As long as you shoot them off at the drunks!     Great idea!

[Riverrat]

What about the First Guarantee parking lot? Can't that be used when the bank isn't open? It isn't a far walk at all and in general, if there were more people parking there from the King Street bars and walking around at night, it would be a safer area. First Guarantee could use more exterior lighting and parking lot lighting, but I think it could be a good option?

[cline]

What about the First Guarantee parking lot? Can't that be used when the bank isn't open? It isn't a far walk at all and in general, if there were more people parking there from the King Street bars and walking around at night, it would be a safer area. First Guarantee could use more exterior lighting and parking lot lighting, but I think it could be a good option?

I believe there would need to be some sort of shared-use agreement with Center State (ex-First Guaranty) to use their lot since it is private.  But it could be an option.

[RiversideLoki]

Any update on this monster? Hell, 4 places have opened up in the time it's taken to get this place together!

[johnnyliar]

Any update on this monster? Hell, 4 places have opened up in the time it's taken to get this place together!

When you see the inside of this place, you'll understand why it took so long and you'll be thankful they took their time. Seriously.

[ben says]

Any update on this monster? Hell, 4 places have opened up in the time it's taken to get this place together!

I was in Kickbacks Sunday....(last Sunday)

The room is open to walk around if you wanna check it out

[Know Growth]

No doubt there is demand to "Grow"

Mellow Mushroom died down fairly quickly last night.............(yea!....Parking).....when I was the age of the folks that initialy thronged the MM (Peace Man!) easterly bar last night,the emphasis for RAP area folk,and many others was Diamond Head,River Rally (present day River City Brewery.....Downtown River Placement what the dang heck,even a swimming pool,for a few months... ),and later,Partners (present day "Brick") for the Avon folk and Others So Lucky You. Former Flower Shop (another one!......) transformed in to "Parners", just high aspiration yet routine restaurant...... and bar....... an overhead mirror that would reflect Noel Friedline's fingers. St Augustine's "Decoy" band played the opening at Partners....on the top of the Men's Room. Lucky Us!Decoy signature piece "Pivot" played by my request again and again and again over the years.....

PIVOT:

Somehow,I felt a little reminiscent ( in fact,after the second glass of wine- tough choice considering the many many beer choices....ah,so what..... and second in fact rather excellent veggie special slice glycemic rush.... ) in fact sorry for the MM folks last night,as I sat there on the far westerly cubicle,my back to the carefully crafted faux red brick wall,every fifth row exhibiting the signature brick lay alternate,and a Peace Sign on the northerly wall....hey,that's a symbol of MY Generation WTDH, (note to self- is this wall faux or 'real'?....at least no more Benham shoes on display thanks be to The J.P Hall and Avondale Gods), lookin not in,just over.Nobody was manning the "The Factor";Fire Truck. 

Casbah rocked,in  spite of it's thwarted, once anticipated eastward expansion.

Certainly,Alternatives,Additions might be in demand.

[RiversideLoki]

Please, don't kid yourself. There are way more prominent restaurants that have "put jacksonville on the map" than a bar food outlet.


We have the winner of Top Chef setting up shop in Brooklyn. We have thirteen gypsies that has been featured on food network, we have Metro Diner that did the same.


I find it hard to believe that a restaurant with a lot of beer, a lot of pennies glued to the wall, and a steampunk theme serving the same food that everywhere else is serving is gonna be revolutionary. Especially after taking two years to open.