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Jay Fant

Started by Flash60, August 08, 2014, 08:56:34 AM

Sentient

Quote from: stephendare on August 15, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
I dont.

What is the difference between "mobilized" and 'left to go defend his country"?

Serious question.

The difference is between a voluntary action an an involuntary action.  Reservists/Guard can be involuntarily mobilized and have been heavily all through the last decade in the mid east fracas.

CutterJ

Quote from: LunaticFringe on August 15, 2014, 08:11:44 AM

2. Fant using our money to pay his current campaign consultant while on the JEA board
3. We all know that since he choked on his own silver spoon he decided to try his wife's golden one.

-Who is Mr. Fant's campaign consultant? I tried to google this information but did not find any results

-Can you please expand on your reference here, does Mr. Fant's wife work?

Quote from: Apache on August 15, 2014, 10:44:00 AM
By the way what is the May River Company and the Caroline Family Office? What does Mr. Fant's workload their consist of?

Is this where Mr. Fant's wife is employed or is this some sort of family wealth office? I would like to learn what Mr. Fant has been doing for the past 2.5 years.


fieldafm

Quote from: CutterJ on August 15, 2014, 11:07:41 AM

-Who is Mr. Fant's campaign consultant? I tried to google this information but did not find any results



Billie Tucker (taking an educated guess that is the person being referanced by LunaticFringe) and Raymond Johnson are Fant's primary campaign consultants.

LunaticFringe

Quote from: fieldafm on August 15, 2014, 11:17:49 AM
Quote from: CutterJ on August 15, 2014, 11:07:41 AM

-Who is Mr. Fant's campaign consultant? I tried to google this information but did not find any results



Billie Tucker (taking an educated guess that is the person being referanced by LunaticFringe) and Raymond Johnson are Fant's primary campaign consultants.

http://members.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-09-14/story/local-tea-party-leader-has-consulting-contract-jea

LunaticFringe

Quote from: Sentient on August 15, 2014, 10:03:27 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on August 15, 2014, 08:00:59 AM
Quotewith the same hyperbole

What I have found in my career, is that Federal regulators don't deal in hypotheticals. They deal in reality. In reality, First Guaranty was run into the ground. Period.

QuoteAs to Renner's alleged integrity

When Jay Fant was running a century old business into the ground, Paul Renner left a lucrative private practice (which he didn't bankrupt, btw) to go defend his country.

It's clear you don't know the first thing about integrity.

Ummm... according to Renner's own web site, he was a reservist who was mobilized.  You do know that right?  It's great he was serving our country as a reservist, but don't propagandize that he stopped chasing the law bucks in his 10 attorney firm to go enlist...

"Paul has served as a naval officer, both on active duty and in the reserves.  He was recently mobilized to Afghanistan where he served with a Joint Task Force."

Hmmmm.....your previous posts led me to believe you were a certain long time bright, but egotistical, local politico. But after reading your hair-splitting post on military service it is clear to me that you are an amateur. It is Campaigns 101 to go nowhere near your opponent's military record...especially when your guy didn't serve.

LunaticFringe

Quote from: stephendare on August 15, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
lunaticfringe.  We observe rules of civility here, and while this post doesn't violate them it comes awfully close.

Please keep debate civil.

Public figures are fair game, within reason.  But how we debate with each other on these pages is held to a higher standard.

We prefer to not call people names, which you don't really do here, Although it would be closer to our custom to say that tactics are amateurish rather than the person.

SInce both of you are new posters, just thought i would drop a line in on this.  carry on.
my apologies.

funguy

Bottom line rich idle bank buster buying his way into the rich man's game of politics..
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

cline

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Quote-Can you please expand on your reference here, does Mr. Fant's wife work?

Mr. Fant's wife is the daughter of a very prominent corporate finance individual- google Radford Lovett.  Her family has multiple millions of dollars. Mr. Fant is definitely not hurting by any sense.  Personally donating 138k to his campaign is chump change to him.

Sentient

Quote from: funguy on August 15, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
Bottom line rich idle bank buster buying his way into the rich man's game of politics..

Naive...  all politics is bought my friend.  How do you think Renner is paying for his smear ads?  The PAC that paid for the negative ads is funded by $1.5M of the Florida Medical Association's money....

What's worse.. putting up $138k of your own money (how can putting money up for yourself ever be bad?) or accepting in kind advertising from a lobby?

Do you really believe there are no strings attached with these negative ads? Hahaha

The Lobbyist and Republican Machine are scared of Fant, that's why they persist in negative campaigning.  isn't that obvious?

They want a tool in place that will do what they are told or pay back...

funguy

Quote from: Sentient on August 15, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: funguy on August 15, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
Bottom line rich idle bank buster buying his way into the rich man's game of politics..

Naive...  all politics is bought my friend.  How do you think Renner is paying for his smear ads?  The PAC that paid for the negative ads is funded by $1.5M of the Florida Medical Association's money....

What's worse.. putting up $138k of your own money (how can putting money up for yourself ever be bad?) or accepting in kind advertising from a lobby?

Do you really believe there are no strings attached with these negative ads? Hahaha

The Lobbyist and Republican Machine are scared of Fant, that's why they persist in negative campaigning.  isn't that obvious?

They want a tool in place that will do what they are told or pay back...

My friend.. Smear?? Naïve??.. When you are as incompetent in finance as Jay Fant proved to be by breaking the bank I don't see that fact as smear rather bringing out the truth that the public should be aware of. Come on now is that the qualifications of a man we want to represent the people..
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

Sentient

Quote from: funguy on August 16, 2014, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: Sentient on August 15, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: funguy on August 15, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
Bottom line rich idle bank buster buying his way into the rich man's game of politics..

Naive...  all politics is bought my friend.  How do you think Renner is paying for his smear ads?  The PAC that paid for the negative ads is funded by $1.5M of the Florida Medical Association's money....

What's worse.. putting up $138k of your own money (how can putting money up for yourself ever be bad?) or accepting in kind advertising from a lobby?

Do you really believe there are no strings attached with these negative ads? Hahaha

The Lobbyist and Republican Machine are scared of Fant, that's why they persist in negative campaigning.  isn't that obvious?

They want a tool in place that will do what they are told or pay back...

My friend.. Smear?? Naïve??.. When you are as incompetent in finance as Jay Fant proved to be by breaking the bank I don't see that fact as smear rather bringing out the truth that the public should be aware of. Come on now is that the qualifications of a man we want to represent the people..

You should read some history, you may be shocked at the things you come across.

President Harry Truman for example, had two business ventures fail, a zinc mine and a clothing store (which filed bankruptcy) before he went into politics...  Abe Lincoln had a business fail, was sued by creditor's and the assets sold.  Look at most of the early presidents...

So you prove nothing with your one dimensional rhetoric, except what you don't know about people, finances, markets and business...  But keep plugging away, the gallery loves this kind of stuff [insert forum style emoticon here]   ;)

When a picture of your opponent's house (shock $2.8M! value) becomes the main thrust of your campaign, you are bankrupt of ideas and leadership.

funguy

as you mentioned Good old Harry Truman I can't help but be reminded of one of his quotes..
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." — Harry S. Truman
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference

Sentient

Quote from: funguy on August 16, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
as you mentioned Good old Harry Truman I can't help but be reminded of one of his quotes..
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference." — Harry S. Truman

That's a good line...

LunaticFringe

Quote from: Sentient on August 16, 2014, 09:47:14 AM
Quote from: funguy on August 16, 2014, 08:34:14 AM
Quote from: Sentient on August 15, 2014, 05:52:55 PM
Quote from: funguy on August 15, 2014, 01:03:43 PM
Bottom line rich idle bank buster buying his way into the rich man's game of politics..

Naive...  all politics is bought my friend.  How do you think Renner is paying for his smear ads?  The PAC that paid for the negative ads is funded by $1.5M of the Florida Medical Association's money....

What's worse.. putting up $138k of your own money (how can putting money up for yourself ever be bad?) or accepting in kind advertising from a lobby?

Do you really believe there are no strings attached with these negative ads? Hahaha

The Lobbyist and Republican Machine are scared of Fant, that's why they persist in negative campaigning.  isn't that obvious?

They want a tool in place that will do what they are told or pay back...

My friend.. Smear?? Naïve??.. When you are as incompetent in finance as Jay Fant proved to be by breaking the bank I don't see that fact as smear rather bringing out the truth that the public should be aware of. Come on now is that the qualifications of a man we want to represent the people..

You should read some history, you may be shocked at the things you come across.

President Harry Truman for example, had two business ventures fail, a zinc mine and a clothing store (which filed bankruptcy) before he went into politics...  Abe Lincoln had a business fail, was sued by creditor's and the assets sold.  Look at most of the early presidents...

So you prove nothing with your one dimensional rhetoric, except what you don't know about people, finances, markets and business...  But keep plugging away, the gallery loves this kind of stuff [insert forum style emoticon here]   ;)

When a picture of your opponent's house (shock $2.8M! value) becomes the main thrust of your campaign, you are bankrupt of ideas and leadership.

Fair enough. So please enlighten us with what DOES, aside from rhetoric, qualify him for office?

Noone

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