Folio's counter to EverBank and Shad Khan

Started by spuwho, July 28, 2014, 09:32:13 PM

Josh

Quote from: Lunican on August 11, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
In order for them to display a video across the entire screen they would need a special camera.... or stretch the crap out of a regular HD picture.  16:9 is a standard aspect ratio. What are these screens? 42:9??

~54:9

The ideal way to fill the screen with a single video image would be to crop.

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: Lunican on August 11, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
In order for them to display a video across the entire screen they would need a special camera.... or stretch the crap out of a regular HD picture.  16:9 is a standard aspect ratio. What are these screens? 42:9??

I don't think that they ever intended to use the FULL screen for a single video.  It seems the main set-up is to have it 1/6 - 2/3 - 1/6 as a main display and 2 side displays.  The beauty is that they can do what they want, due to the nature of the individual boards, without losing any resolution. 

Think of a challenged call.  Instead of seeing only 1 replay, they'll have the capacity to show that same replay from 3 different angles on the same board at the same time - all in HD.  it's going to be awesome!
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IrvAdams

As stated, there just aren't many cameras capable of recording a decent video that size and shape (yet). And a cropped image would be way exaggerated size wise and therefore probably washed out looking. Just running other videos or scores, etc in the 'wings' of the boards is very useful. You do not, I repeat do not, miss anything at the game now. I feel a little bit like I'm in my living room.
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ErikSetzer

Quote from: TheCat on August 10, 2014, 08:25:52 PM


:o

So I take it you weren't there for the actual game Friday night?  Because I saw replays of highlight plays or earlier parts of the game showing three different views, or different angles of the Roar when they were performing.  I saw the middle section used like a giant live TV screen to show what you'd be seeing at home (in case you couldn't clearly see the field, I suppose... I like watching the field) and using the sides to display score, time remaining, timeouts, stats, etc.  Even before the game started, they were showing multiple different things on the boards.

That photo was from a small window during the pre-game where they were focusing on stuff like the guys parachuting into the stadium (who you might notice in the images), or the singing of the national anthem.

Also, the money wasn't just for those scoreboards.  They also updated a lot of the video strips around the stadium (adding new ones, I'm certain), as well as adding the cabanas and pools, and I'm pretty sure the corner screens were updated (they were displaying other games during the Jags game so people could keep up with those games if they wanted, sort of like someone at home watching multiple games).

I'm actually pretty impressed with all of the upgrades they were able to do.  And photos can't do those screens justice.
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ErikSetzer

Quote from: Non-RedNeck Westsider on August 11, 2014, 07:17:52 PMI don't think that they ever intended to use the FULL screen for a single video.  It seems the main set-up is to have it 1/6 - 2/3 - 1/6 as a main display and 2 side displays.  The beauty is that they can do what they want, due to the nature of the individual boards, without losing any resolution. 

Think of a challenged call.  Instead of seeing only 1 replay, they'll have the capacity to show that same replay from 3 different angles on the same board at the same time - all in HD.  it's going to be awesome!

That's basically how they were using them.  Like on Winston Guy's return for a touchdown, they showed multiple angles of the play.  I believe they did the same for D-Rob's TD.  And also for the Roar's performances, and just showing various highlights of the game during breaks.

They're also taking advantage of it for other uses.  During parts of the game (I think after every quarter?) they were showing a studio show at the stadium where they were talking about what was going on during the game, show sideline interviews, stuff like that.  The kind of stuff you'd see on TV, but done with the Jaguars' people.  Christian Bruey and Fred Taylor for the "studio" parts, and Kavita Channe doing the sideline stuff.

From Jacksonville.com, here's some info on how the boards can be used (and we saw this live during the preseason game):

"--They can show different content on each board and each board can show three replays at a time for a total of six. They could show a highlight along with player reaction at the same time.

--Because the boards are 6 ½ times wider than they are high, the game will be shown on only 40 per cent of the boards in the middle. The "wings'' on each side will provide content from statistics to twitter comments. The 40 per cent view is still bigger than the Cowboys' boards.

--The only content that will be shown across the entire board has been custom made like showing a player holding his arms out to get the fans cheering. They have to hold their arms out straight rather than above their head so their arms aren't cut off in the video.

--Once a challenge is made and the referee goes under the hood, they can only show the TV feed that the referee sees. They can no longer show their own replays. If the Jaguars are the victim of a bad call, they can show an immediate replay to alert the Jaguars to challenge. They don't have to show a replay if it favors the visiting team. Rosen calls that home field advantage.

--They will show a virtual first down marker like they do on TV."
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Buforddawg

OH MY GOD!  Some one give that damn baby a bottle already! Haters gonna hate!  The video boards ARE there and are NOT going anywhere. So stop your damn whining.

From someone who was at the game, the boards were fantastic. I found myself watching the boards more than the field.

And to set the record straight, they did not use the video boards like 3 separate screens.  The meme that's been posted on this thread was taken during halftime.  If they had used the screens as one screen the paratroopers would have been lost in the view of the sky.  By shrinking the live shot to a smaller size it allowed the fans to focus on the paratroopers.


pierre

I have not seen that meme anywhere. Assuming that poster created it him or herself.

TheCat

#127
QuoteOH MY GOD!  Some one give that damn baby a bottle already! Haters gonna hate!  The video boards ARE there and are NOT going anywhere. So stop your damn whining.

Maybe read through this thread. The only babies and whiners are the ones calling everyone else babies and whiners.

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I-10east

Quote from: Buforddawg on August 12, 2014, 09:18:27 PM
From someone who was at the game, the boards were fantastic. I found myself watching the boards more than the field.

+100

I was completely blown away! From the super clear jumbo video boards, to the surrounding ribbons boards, the four catercorner medium video boards showing the NO vs STL game, the swimming pools, to the high end sponsors like Microsoft Surface, Xfinity, and XBOX One, along with the great local sponsors (all electronic). It looks like an entirely different stadium. Our stadium is the envy of the league right now! :)

simms3

I still stand by the article's intent and other people's likely similar view that no matter how awesome for Jags fans these humongous screens are and how much better they make people's daily lives, it's a fuckin' pathetic way to spend public money.

Of all the less pathetic things public money could have been spent on, even slightly more related to tourism and all, considering it was a bed tax that was just squandered.

Only in an urban oriented forum for Jacksonville people would an apparent majority of posters be ok with this.  That's only supposed to sound obviously offensive.

Judging from this whole chain of events and sentiment on these very boards, when Shad Khan comes to you all, the taxpayers in oh, 2 years or so, asking for a new stadium for only a billy, I'm sure he thinks it won't be "too" difficult to pull it out of all you dupes.  This was a test case and you failed and he passed.
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I-10east

Quote from: simms3 on August 13, 2014, 08:55:47 AM
I still stand by the article's intent and other people's likely similar view that no matter how awesome for Jags fans these humongous screens are and how much better they make people's daily lives, it's a fuckin' pathetic way to spend public money.

Good for you Simms, and I glad that you're sticking to your guns. I didn't think that you would've dramatically changed your opinion on a whim all of a sudden...

Gators312

Can anyone tell me what the CoJ has spent bed tax dollars on in the past aside from the scoreboards?

KenFSU

^ The vast majority goes to maintaining the sports complex (33% of the bed tax) and paying interest on the bonds that financed the construction of the stadium (33%). Of that remaining third, roughly 70% goes to Visit Jacksonville, for marketing and promotion of the city. From my understanding, the rest typically goes toward staffing and administrative expenses for the Tourist Development Council, and for grants for various sporting events, festivals, and concerts that will potentially bring tourism to Jacksonville. I believe that specific examples include the Florida-Florida State baseball game, Florida-Georgia football, the Gator Bowl, the ACC Championship game, the NCAA basketball tournament, Super Bowl XXXIX, the Mega Super Giant Country Fest, etc.

edjax

Quote from: simms3 on August 13, 2014, 08:55:47 AM
I still stand by the article's intent and other people's likely similar view that no matter how awesome for Jags fans these humongous screens are and how much better they make people's daily lives, it's a fuckin' pathetic way to spend public money.

Of all the less pathetic things public money could have been spent on, even slightly more related to tourism and all, considering it was a bed tax that was just squandered.

Only in an urban oriented forum for Jacksonville people would an apparent majority of posters be ok with this.  That's only supposed to sound obviously offensive.

Judging from this whole chain of events and sentiment on these very boards, when Shad Khan comes to you all, the taxpayers in oh, 2 years or so, asking for a new stadium for only a billy, I'm sure he thinks it won't be "too" difficult to pull it out of all you dupes.  This was a test case and you failed and he passed.

Oh yes, I am sure he will be back in say 2 years to ask for a new stadium. Wow.  And good to see you can still make constructive comments without denigrating the people of Jax. So you once again failed that test. And I assume your family since remaining in Jax if they have are some real dupes.

Gators312

Quote from: simms3 on August 13, 2014, 08:55:47 AM

Of all the less pathetic things public money could have been spent on, even slightly more related to tourism and all, considering it was a bed tax that was just squandered.


Don't most cities "squander" bed tax money on stadiums?  Including the new Santa Clara stadium?