Deutsche Bank considers Southbank in site search

Started by thelakelander, March 19, 2014, 12:43:39 PM

thelakelander

This would be nice if this site is selected:

QuoteBy Karen Brune Mathis, Managing Editor

Deutsche Bank is continuing its site search for a consolidated Jacksonville office campus, and one of the locations is a high-profile Downtown property — the Southbank land for sale by JEA.

Four sources who are familiar with the deal but did not want to be identified said the global financial services company would generate thousands of jobs on the 30-acre riverfront site if it chooses the location.

"It would be a rebirth of development on the Southbank," said one of those sources.

full article: http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=542494
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bencrix

Doesn't the potential of that site include dense mixed-uses, public spaces, etc.. Compatible w/ a corporate "campus" ?

thelakelander

Depends on the layout. You can integrate a low-rise corporate campus into an infill urban site and still make the setting walkable, if that's your overall goal.
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vicupstate

A promising option, but the devil will be in the details.  It would be a terrible waste if it is simply a riverfront suburban office park with surface or mostly surface parking.
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jaxjaguar

Quote from: vicupstate on March 19, 2014, 01:16:46 PM
A promising option, but the devil will be in the details.  It would be a terrible waste if it is simply a riverfront suburban office park with surface or mostly surface parking.

Agreed. It needs to be "a game changer" not southside 2.0. A bunch of wasted land and sprawled out low rises wouldn't be beneficial in the long run. If they create a campus with a mixture of low, mid and high rises on that land it could completly change the face of the city...... and call me crazy, but maybe we could extend the river walk down to this campus.

simms3

I don't give a shit how the JEA land is configured if Deutsche Bank chooses to consolidate a large campus there.  That would be the biggest game changer for downtown Jax and Jacksonville in general in a really really long time.  Having Deutsche Bank locate a sizable office in downtown Jax that rivals anything it has in NYC would be something that puts Jax on the map in the minds of lots of other firms -

Other banks
Support firms
Various companies that do business with Deutsche (my own being one - we just hired an analyst from Deutsche's SF office and Deutsche markets our securities to investors overseas)

and for all of us looking for more development, I guarantee this would turn heads for every major group out there.  As has been referenced today, not only is Jax not on anyone's radar, there is no compelling reason to bring any Jax deals up to any investment committee.  With Deutsche building a downtown office campus, a sizable one at that, all of a sudden there is a story and optimism and excitement, and certainly a game changer.
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CityLife

#7
If this happens, I'd love to see a joint venture between Deutsche Bank and a major player in the commercial/retail development world for a truly mixed use district. The possibilities are limitless.

I hope the city offers up whatever they can to make this happen.

jaxjaguar

Deutsche Bank / Ikea mixed use combo..... KIDDDING maybe.

Stephen

So.......How can Alvin Brown and the City Council f--k this up?

CityLife

I'm talking more about a retail/commercial developer that could help bring in multiple tenants. Look at what Regency has already done on Riverside Ave with Fresh Market, M Shack, and Corner Bakery already lined up. 

tufsu1

Quote from: stephendare on March 19, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: Stephen on March 19, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
So.......How can Alvin Brown and the City Council f--k this up?

ask Jerry Moran.  Hes the defacto Downtown Development Agency Head.

I wasn't aware that Jacksonville has a Downtown Development Agency

(to the other Stephen) just a guess on my part, but Mayor Brown and his team (including Ted Carter and Aundra Wallace) may have been involved in suggesting the idea to Deutsch Bank to start with

copperfiend


blizz01

#13
Something like what they have in Frankfurt might be nice..... ;)

If it's a call center operation, I'd expect it to be more horizontal than vertical - but whatever, bring it on!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Bank_Twin_Towers

vicupstate

Quote from: simms3 on March 19, 2014, 01:37:08 PM
I don't give a shit how the JEA land is configured if Deutsche Bank chooses to consolidate a large campus there.  That would be the biggest game changer for downtown Jax and Jacksonville in general in a really really long time.  Having Deutsche Bank locate a sizable office in downtown Jax that rivals anything it has in NYC would be something that puts Jax on the map in the minds of lots of other firms -

Other banks
Support firms
Various companies that do business with Deutsche (my own being one - we just hired an analyst from Deutsche's SF office and Deutsche markets our securities to investors overseas)

and for all of us looking for more development, I guarantee this would turn heads for every major group out there.  As has been referenced today, not only is Jax not on anyone's radar, there is no compelling reason to bring any Jax deals up to any investment committee.  With Deutsche building a downtown office campus, a sizable one at that, all of a sudden there is a story and optimism and excitement, and certainly a game changer.

Deutsche Bank is expanding in Jax regardless - right?  SO does it really make that much difference to all the other parties you speak of that it would be DT rather than SS?   Don't get me wrong, I understand it is a big deal in terms of DT redevelopment whether it goes DT or SS, but how is it that relevant to them and whether or not those you speak of would invest here? 

I disagree that the way it is developed is inconsequential.  I could easily see this developing in a suburban style, then years later Deutsche moves on and we are stuck with it. 
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