Retail-less parking garage to receive final approval

Started by Metro Jacksonville, October 11, 2012, 10:55:47 AM

Noone

The parking and the debt and guaranteed return given by the city for Metropolitan Parking Solutions and this new DIA along with the new legislation 2012-674 needs to be factored in evaluating any new parking related project.

fieldafm

QuoteThe parking and the debt and guaranteed return given by the city for Metropolitan Parking Solutions and this new DIA along with the new legislation 2012-674 needs to be factored in evaluating any new parking related project.

Noone makes a good point.

How is the taxpayer assistance the City gave Metropolitan working out? 

Why then should taxpayers subsidize a poorly designed parking garage on prime real estate?

dougskiles

Quote from: fieldafm on December 28, 2012, 10:20:17 AM
Why then should taxpayers subsidize a poorly designed parking garage on prime real estate?

I much prefer to see city money fund public infrastructure projects that are designed to create an environment attractive to business.  If we are going to incentivize private enterprise, it should be in the form of tax rebates upon performance (certain number of residential units created or high-paying jobs created).


cline

Quote from: dougskiles on December 28, 2012, 10:30:21 AM
Quote from: fieldafm on December 28, 2012, 10:20:17 AM
Why then should taxpayers subsidize a poorly designed parking garage on prime real estate?

I much prefer to see city money fund public infrastructure projects that are designed to create an environment attractive to business.  If we are going to incentivize private enterprise, it should be in the form of tax rebates upon performance (certain number of residential units created or high-paying jobs created).



Agreed.  We can't keep selling the farm up front.

thelakelander

This project breaks ground today:

http://www.jaxdailyrecord.com/showstory.php?Story_id=541330

The $10 million, 607-space garage is expected to be completed by September 2014.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

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Tacachale

A retail-less parking garage that doesn't serve the Landing, appending his name to already successful events, and continued pipe dreams of a downtown big box store. Add that to thoroughly botching the city's budget and surreptitiously torpedoing the Human Rights Ordinance. Mayor Brown Presents Downtown Jacksonville.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

thelakelander

The garage isn't for the Landing. It's for the Suntrust Tower across the street.  With that said, it would have been great to consolidate all parking in the immediate vicinity into a larger structure since we're hell bent on doing this. At least, then, we'd free up several surface lots for infill.
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

jcjohnpaint

I have not seen an mention of it, but could the garage sustain more floors or structure in the future? 

BoldBoyOfTheSouth

Why does Jacksonville contintue to allow zoning for parking garages without ground floor retail space? 

Ground floor retail space provides visual street life instead of a massive block long ugly parking structure that people feel unsafe walking past late at night and adds nothing to street level activity during the day.

tufsu1

Ground Floor retail space is planned with the garage....after uproar led to several design changes...now whether that retail gets occupied is a different story

tufsu1

Quote from: Tacachale on December 17, 2013, 12:07:22 PM
A retail-less parking garage that doesn't serve the Landing,

it has retail spaces and will serve the Landing...Sleiman just doesn't get to control the revenue

Tacachale

Ok, great - retail added as an afterthought and it doesn't fulfill the city's obligation to the Landing.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

edjax

Just a FYI.  According to article on Jax Biz Journal no retail until 60% occupancy.  Owner states only in the 50s now and would expect the retail to be added within 24 months upon the completion of the garage. 

ricker

Quote from: jcjohnpaint on December 17, 2013, 12:16:39 PM
I have not seen an mention of it, but could the garage sustain more floors or structure in the future?

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This.