Million dollar condos coming to Riverside

[edjax]

^^ shouldn't this be in the TIGER grant thread?

[JeffreyS]

Would $20M get a streetcar from King street to the Landing?

[thelakelander]

^$50 million would.

[Dog Walker]

Just build it on pilings just beyond the bulkhead.  No property taken at all.  This is how they built the one on the Southbank.

[vicupstate]

There's also a private residence, the villas of St John's and a hedge fund on the water. No way you're getting past those. With Wayne and Delores as the top dogs in the Tower of Power, you may be able to get some sort of accommodation for the riverwalk past there.

What about just sprucing up the walking paths on Riverside ave and River Blvd?? Currently the sidewalk of riverside ave is a death trap from dusk until dawn.

Just take it by eminent domain and pay the bill for a 5' strip of land, what're they going to do about it? That's actually a legitimate public purpose (for once). It could certainly be done.

You are against a municipality demolishing a person's private property but you are for a municipality seizing someones personal property?

Taking private property for public use, is different than simply destroying (and devaluing) someone's private property.  The issue with Eminent Domain is when it is used (or misused rather) to take private property for someone else's private use.

+1 exactly my thoughts.

That's a want not a need in any sense. That idea would never fly without going to the highest level of litigation. There are a hundred places a citizen could access the river in Jax without commandeering someone's personal property. Good luck with that.

Eminent Domain was used to level LaVilla, was that a need? It has nothing to do with 'want and 'need'.

Every highway ever built was a 'want' before it was a need. BTW, I do consider RECREATION a public need, and so does the courts.

There are thousands of examples of eminent domain for public recreation, covering every state.

The only question would be how much would the city have to pay for the land, and is there the political WILL to do it.  That later part being a big 'IF'.  Rich people don't tend to have their land taken.  They either get paid handsomely for it in a standard transaction, or the politicos back off. 

[ChriswUfGator]

There's also a private residence, the villas of St John's and a hedge fund on the water. No way you're getting past those. With Wayne and Delores as the top dogs in the Tower of Power, you may be able to get some sort of accommodation for the riverwalk past there.

What about just sprucing up the walking paths on Riverside ave and River Blvd?? Currently the sidewalk of riverside ave is a death trap from dusk until dawn.

Just take it by eminent domain and pay the bill for a 5' strip of land, what're they going to do about it? That's actually a legitimate public purpose (for once). It could certainly be done.

You are against a municipality demolishing a person's private property but you are for a municipality seizing someones personal property?

Taking private property for public use, is different than simply destroying (and devaluing) someone's private property.  The issue with Eminent Domain is when it is used (or misused rather) to take private property for someone else's private use.

+1 exactly my thoughts.

That's a want not a need in any sense. That idea would never fly without going to the highest level of litigation. There are a hundred places a citizen could access the river in Jax without commandeering someone's personal property. Good luck with that.

Eminent domain has nothing to do with want vs. need, if the taking is for a valid public purpose then they're going to get it. A public thoroughfare like the riverwalk is a textbook public purpose. Assuming the notices were properly given, the trial is generally limited just to damages. This is very well settled law.

[mtraininjax]

Anybody in Real Estate paying attention to what these folks are listing the condos for? They are being listed for between $350 and $400 a square foot.  You can buy a Villa Riva Condo for close to $275 a square foot.

Are the Hallmark people living in fantasyland???

[Stephen]

Should add some pizzaz to the neighborhood....This is great news if they sell

[Overstreet]

1. If you take by eminent domain you still have to pay for it. Although the amounts are often "robbery".

2. Condos? .......Seems odd since we have all those empty ones on the south bank and the national trend is for apartments.

[fsujax]

I wasn't aware the ones on the Southbank were empty. Last I heard occupancy was pretty good. I know several people that live in them actually.

[JayBird]

2. Condos? .......Seems odd since we have all those empty ones on the south bank and the national trend is for apartments.

Ummm .... Where?

[BoldBoyOfTheSouth]

There should be zoning where all new highrise buildings must have street level pedestrian friendly restaurant and retail on the first floor.

[Overstreet]

Should add some pizzaz to the neighborhood....This is great news if they sell

The neighborhood isn't of the same mind as you.