The Sheriff Thinks the 'Knockout Game' Should be a Hate Crime

[I-10east]

While they're definitely some incidents that were erroneously linked to the knockout game on the news (like people with mental problems attacking, ie the London case)  the game is certainly not a myth or an urban legend. The cases in Jersey City when the kids were talking about it, and where the attacks occurred; The NYC case when the Orthodox Jew heard the attackers talking about it on the link below. There's plenty of info out there. Al Sharpton even acknowledged it and denounced it. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ6LAR0cLy0

[ChriswUfGator]

I can't see this gaining popularity around here (assuming its even real), in Jacksonville everybody shoots first and doesn't bother asking questions later. This (media hyped) 'epidemic' wouldn't make it 15 minutes around here, they'd all be dead.

[finehoe]

I can't see this gaining popularity around here (assuming its even real), in Jacksonville everybody shoots first and doesn't bother asking questions later. This (media hyped) 'epidemic' wouldn't make it 15 minutes around here, they'd all be dead.

Not to mention that hardly anybody walks in Jacksonville.  It's hard to play the "Knockout Game" in an automobile.

[coredumped]

Just happened at the walgreens on Merrill. Everyone be aware of your surroundings, hopefully these kids will mess with the wrong person some day.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/man-describes-being-victim-of-knockout-game/-/475880/24313470/-/a18alez/-/index.html

[I-10east]

Really, a white puppy? The media & the police have to stop this disregarding the descriptions of the suspects' for the sake of being politically correct. I don't care what color or age they are, suspects involved in serious crimes like an unprovoked assault should have a description. They are putting citizens in danger. This PC agenda is troubling, as they are literally protecting criminals. 

[TheCat]

What? Hate crime legislation is good now. If I remember correctly, the controversy surrounding hate crime legislation was something like "this PC agenda is troubling..." because many of those opposed to hate crime legislation felt it created protected classes of people, meaning minority groups.

I-10, are you getting soft? You're losing your edge, man. Remember, you are supposed to oppose hate crime legislation.

Here are some links that will bring you back on point:

http://www.frc.org/content/q--a-whats-wrong-with-thought-crime-hate-crime-laws--


http://www.wpaag.org/HateCrimes-25reasonstooppos&courtcase.htm


But, I think I get it. It's only politically correct if you perceive that something, somehow favors minority groups. It's justice if it favors anyone else?

The media & the police have to stop this disregarding the descriptions of the suspects' for the sake of being politically correct.

Exactly! Can you believe that "stop and frisk" is under attack in New York. It is under going reform and may even be phased out! Politically correct b.s. Young men of darker shades are obviously suspicious and now we're going to let them just walk around and punch people in the face.

I'm still wondering why young white teenage boys are not immediately hand cuffed as soon as they walk onto a school campus, though. Again, another example of political correctness gone crazy? The suspects are the suspects.

[I-10east]

But, I think I get it. It's only politically correct if you perceive that something, somehow favors minority groups. It's justice if it favors anyone else?

Man you're all over the place; NYC stop & frisk etc *sigh* So regarding my statement concerning the Arlington incident, you're saying that it's okay for the media & police to play this little hush-hush PC game? Like I said, I don't care what color of people did it, they should have a description; Maybe you had missed that. Sounds like it's in your interest to protect those punks or something.

When did I say that I 'oppose' hate crime legislation? I wouldn't call it perfect, put I never said that I oppose it. I guess that you're trying to label me some right-wing conservative or something. Even though I hate this word, I'd label myself a 'centrist' leaning a tad left. IMO there are both good and bad things about both political parties; Although if someone says one objective comment these days, you're perceived to be either way far left or way far right....Feels like I'm eating some alphabet soup, with all of these words put into my mouth...

[urbanlibertarian]

Hate crimes are not within the sheriff's jurisdiction.  They are handled by the Thought Police.

[Jameson]

Stop wasting your time on this thread. The knockout game is still a myth. It doesn't exist.

http://nypost.com/2014/01/29/knockout-guy-i-slugged-78-year-old-other-women-in-self-defense/

[urbanlibertarian]

In "Treason and Conspiracy to distribute child porn" you chose two actions in which the perpetrators motive does not really make them more guilty.  Using 1st degree murder, 2nd degree murder and manslaughter as examples is a better argument because motive and intent are the differences between those (from my layman's understanding).  Hate crime laws give extra punishment to perpetrators because their motives involve intolerant beliefs.  I think intolerant beliefs are wrong but I don't think people should be punished by the government for having them even if it leads to a tragic act.

[urbanlibertarian]

I don't think intolerance equals hate.  Thoughtful, intelligent and gracious people have held intolerant beliefs throughout history.  Also a perpetrator's motives or intent don't change the results of the act just whether we perceive them as evil, out of control or just negligent.  I think government should be as neutral as possible about a person's thoughts and beliefs in order that everyone get equal treatment under the law.

[urbanlibertarian]

It may or it may not.  In order for a person to commit an act of violence rationally they have to perceive the victim as less than human or somehow deserving of that treatment.  Intolerant beliefs, however wrong and repugnant they are, can let someone rationalize violence without hate.

[edjax]

4 teens arrested in Brunswick for knockout incident at the local Walmart.  Felony charges.

[I-10east]

^^I'm glad that they got charged. I don't buy this sugarcoated 'mischievous teen' crap that some preach, these people are violent. People like this could easily kill someone, especially with Florida/Georgia's elderly population. Now, it's time to catch those Arlington bastards. Violent people are worthless.

www.news4jax.com/news/georgia-news/4-teens-arrested-in-knockout-game/-/475792/24713024/-/ine78f/-/index.html

[I-10east]

^^^Good to know.