Da "U" is Back! Gators already skinned. Seminole's next!

[carpnter]

[I-10east]

For a while that game was pretty competitive. Then unfortunately for tha 'U' they had to play the second half. Just think, the game got outta hand that badly despite Winston's so-so game with two interceptions. It's freaking scary how good Florida State is.

[thelakelander]

Winston actually played flawlessly in the second half.  Would have stayed a little closer if Morris didn't turn back into Stephen Morris and Duke didn't get hurt. Any team that loses it's top two offensive playmakers (Dorsett messed his MCL up two weeks ago) is going to struggle to move the ball.  Really though, it came down to depth. Canes are still a year or so away on that angle in relation to where FSU is today.  However, that will be corrected in a few months now that the NCAA is out of the way.

[tufsu1]

Really though, it came down to depth. Canes are still a year or so away on that angle in relation to where FSU is today.  However, that will be corrected in a few months now that the NCAA is out of the way.

sounds to me like somebody is givinh up on the 2013 season

[thelakelander]

Umm, Canes are building a dynasty buddy. This is much larger than 2013.

[CityLife]

Winston actually played flawlessly in the second half.  Would have stayed a little closer if Morris didn't turn back into Stephen Morris and Duke didn't get hurt. Any team that loses it's top two offensive playmakers (Dorsett messed his MCL up two weeks ago) is going to struggle to move the ball.  Really though, it came down to depth. Canes are still a year or so away on that angle in relation to where FSU is today.  However, that will be corrected in a few months now that the NCAA is out of the way.

FSU was up 35-14 when Duke got hurt. The game was a blowout well before the injury which happened at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Also, by his standards, Winston played a C- game in the first half and maybe a B game in the 2nd. Miami was playing 2 deep safeties to not give up the deep ball, so Winston just took what the defense gave him and managed the game. Basically Miami gave up the run and underneath routes to prevent deep routes (which is Winston's strength) with the hope that it could stop them in the red zone and force field goals.

Hopefully Miami can run the table and make the ACC title game. FSU's only shot at Pasadena if Bama and Oregon win out, is for Miami and Clemson to boost our SOS.

[FSBA]

Miami is certainly improving from where the bottom fell out a few years ago. However, the ceiling for Miami is nowhere near where it was in the 80s or 90s.

They have no on campus stadium and the identity that comes with it (one of the few things the Orange Bowl still had going for it.)

They lack the funding to keep elite coaches/assistants.

They have the worst fan support of any major FBS program. They can't draw more than 40,000 fans unless UF/FSU bring another 20-30,000 fans in tow

[thelakelander]

Winston actually played flawlessly in the second half.  Would have stayed a little closer if Morris didn't turn back into Stephen Morris and Duke didn't get hurt. Any team that loses it's top two offensive playmakers (Dorsett messed his MCL up two weeks ago) is going to struggle to move the ball.  Really though, it came down to depth. Canes are still a year or so away on that angle in relation to where FSU is today.  However, that will be corrected in a few months now that the NCAA is out of the way.

FSU was up 35-14 when Duke got hurt. The game was a blowout well before the injury which happened at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Morris had morphed back into himself by then. Duke getting hurt pretty much meant Miami wasn't going to score anymore.

Also, by his standards, Winston played a C- game in the first half and maybe a B game in the 2nd. Miami was playing 2 deep safeties to not give up the deep ball, so Winston just took what the defense gave him and managed the game. Basically Miami gave up the run and underneath routes to prevent deep routes (which is Winston's strength) with the hope that it could stop them in the red zone and force field goals.

He probably went up against the best defense he'll see this year, which is saying lot since UM's defense (while vastly improved since last year) still is pretty young and inexperienced. Earlier in the season, I'd say it would be UF, but they're a walking medical clinic right now.

Hopefully Miami can run the table and make the ACC title game. FSU's only shot at Pasadena if Bama and Oregon win out, is for Miami and Clemson to boost our SOS.

Just let things play out. One of those guys will lose before the season is over.

[I-10east]

They have no on campus stadium and the identity that comes with it (one of the few things the Orange Bowl still had going for it.)

They lack the funding to keep elite coaches/assistants.

They have the worst fan support of any major FBS program. They can't draw more than 40,000 fans unless UF/FSU bring another 20-30,000 fans in tow

Univ of Central Florida has Bright House Networks Stadium, which seats about 45,000 down there in Orlando. IMO a smaller stadium like that would be perfect for the Canes. It's kinda embarrassing that freaking UCF beat Miami to the punch, with a suitable stadium. All I hear in the state of Florida is 'the big three' universities, and UCF certainly isn't included with that bunch. The South Florida region arguably has best recruiting in the US. Maybe the fact that Miami has a private university is what kinda hold them back with certain aspects (funding etc). Here's UFC's Stadium below.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_House_Networks_Stadium

[thelakelander]

Miami is certainly improving from where the bottom fell out a few years ago. However, the ceiling for Miami is nowhere near where it was in the 80s or 90s.

They have no on campus stadium and the identity that comes with it (one of the few things the Orange Bowl still had going for it.)

They lack the funding to keep elite coaches/assistants.

I'm fine with Golden. He's every bit as good as what FSU has. The best thing UM has is tradition, a pretty exciting city to go to school in and a built in pool of local talent coming out of high school.  Those will always be pretty strong draws.

They have the worst fan support of any major FBS program. They can't draw more than 40,000 fans unless UF/FSU bring another 20-30,000 fans in tow

It's a pretty small school in a major city that's not a one horse town built around a large college campus. Enrollment (around 10k) is closer to FAMU's than UF/FSU.  Even UNF is larger.

[thelakelander]

They have no on campus stadium and the identity that comes with it (one of the few things the Orange Bowl still had going for it.)

They lack the funding to keep elite coaches/assistants.

They have the worst fan support of any major FBS program. They can't draw more than 40,000 fans unless UF/FSU bring another 20-30,000 fans in tow

Univ of Central Florida has Bright House Networks Stadium, which seats about 45,000 down there in Orlando. IMO a smaller stadium like that would be perfect for the Canes. It's kinda embarrassing that freaking UCF beat Miami to the punch, with a suitable stadium. All I hear in the state of Florida is 'the big three' universities, and UCF certainly isn't included with that bunch. The South Florida region arguably has best recruiting in the US. Maybe the fact that Miami has a private university is what kinda hold them back with certain aspects (funding etc). Here's UFC's Stadium below.

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright_House_Networks_Stadium

Well UCF is the largest public university in the state.  The only reason you think UCF is a new kid on the block is because their football program is relatively young compared to the "big three."  I've spent a decent amount of time on that campus over the last year for a multimodal corridor project on Alafaya Trail.  That's a pretty large campus. Too bad it's out in the boonies instead of being closer to the heart of Orlando.

[CityLife]

Honestly, there is no way to know if Miami is any better than they were last season. The teams they have beaten are 26-31 (not counting their losses to Miami) and the margin of victory has not been impressive at all. The teams FSU has beaten are 42-17 (excluding losses to FSU) and we are just destroying everyone. Also, this is probably Miami's easiest schedule in recent memory, due to a down year from Florida and a down year for the Coastal division. Same can be said for FSU's schedule too thanks to WVU cancelling.

Think next year will be a minor rebuilding year, but Golden has them heading the right direction. I know I'd buy a used car from him.

[CityLife]

Miami can't build an on campus stadium because of the city of Coral Gables. Land prices are ridiculous there and I don't think the city would allow it anyways. I've heard the closest and most feasible place for Miami to build their own stadium is Tropical Park, a few miles west of campus.

[thelakelander]

Honestly, there is no way to know if Miami is any better than they were last season. The teams they have beaten are 26-31 (not counting their losses to Miami) and the margin of victory has not been impressive at all.

Margin of victory has been pretty high, excluding the Wake, North Carolina, and UF (at full strength then) games.  I've watched nearly every UM game over the last decade.  They are better than last year.  Primarily because they have more depth. In years past, they would have lost those games where they fell behind double digits heading into the 4th.

The teams FSU has beaten are 42-17 (excluding losses to FSU) and we are just destroying everyone. Also, this is probably Miami's easiest schedule in recent memory, due to a down year from Florida and a down year for the Coastal division. Same can be said for FSU's schedule too thanks to WVU cancelling.

Like OSU, FSU's schedule will be it's undoing. UM is the best team they'll face all year because UF has fallen off.  That's not going to be enough to overcome Bama and Oregon if they don't lose (which I predict one will).

Think next year will be a minor rebuilding year, but Golden has them heading the right direction. I know I'd buy a used car from him.

Stephen Morris is a senior. Next year will depend on the performance of Ryan Williams or whoever can beat him out.


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[tufsu1]

From a recruiting standpoint, many players are more impressed by playing in an NFL stadium than an on-campus one....thats the edge schools like USF and PITT try to sell....unfortunately for Miami, Joe Robbie Stadium is just plain boring.