Jax Landing to be renovated

[I-10east]

well at least you are consistent.  Not everyone can be as consistently incorrect yet so confident at the same time.

Great insight Stephen. You disagreed with EVERYTHING that I had said, whatta surprise! So I guess making Laura St (a street in the center of DT) a pedestrian only zone isn't extreme....

[edjax]

Not to mention the poster only suggested it for weekends only. 

[thelakelander]

^^^Too be fair, I believe that you brought this up one time; Most don't know about that retail within those office buildings.

I thought I just mentioned retail.  I never said what type.  Nevertheless, I did mention integrating the Landing with the streets surrounding it because those streets and buildings do include existing underutilized retail spaces.  Opening up the Landing, helps stimulate more visibility and foot traffic, which gives us a better chance of creating a natural market to fill up the existing retail spaces on streets like Laura.

[I-10east]

Stephen, you said that I was 'consistently incorrect' so I supposed that you disagreed with my remark below too (yes someone mentioned it, not me making it up). Maybe you should break things down ala Lake with your debates (esp with multiple issues) instead of throwing out baseless remarks like "You're totally wrong as usual!".

I totally disagree the idea of closing Laura auto traffic off for pedestrian foot traffic; That would be an extreme logistical nightmare, and totally disrupt and ruin the traffic grid.

[thelakelander]

Not to mention the poster only suggested it for weekends only. 

I was in Orlando last week.  Church Street is open to vehicular traffic most of the time.  However, when the Magic games take place, the street is closed and it becomes a pedestrian only zone, making an outdoor activity space between the front doors of the Amway Center and the bars/restaurants in the garage across the street.  Look hard and you can see where the bollards come out of the street to restrict car access at certain times.

[edjax]

I think parts,of Laura were closed down during One Spark. Also they partially close it during Gator Bowl and Fl/Ga weekend.  I really doubt that there is so much traffic downtown on a normal weekend that closing it would cause a major logistical problem. 

[I-10east]

Typical highbrow condescending remark from one Sir Stephendare. It sure didn't stop you from replying though. It's currently Thursday, September 19, 2013; You'll find a way to disagree with that too...

[thelakelander]

I think parts,of Laura were closed down during One Spark. Also they partially close it during Gator Bowl and Fl/Ga weekend.  I really doubt that there is so much traffic downtown on a normal weekend that closing it would cause a major logistical problem. 

No, it wouldn't.  Typical downtown weekends look more like London in 28 Days Later.  You almost expect zombies to run after you because it's so quiet.

[peestandingup]

Not to mention the poster only suggested it for weekends only.

^This. And only at night. Not sure how people mistook it as "close down the whole shebang permanently". The examples I listed does just that (weekends only).

Maybe I should have been clearer.

[I-10east]

I thought I just mentioned retail.  I never said what type.  Nevertheless, I did mention integrating the Landing with the streets surrounding it because those streets and buildings do include existing underutilized retail spaces.  Opening up the Landing, helps stimulate more visibility and foot traffic, which gives us a better chance of creating a natural market to fill up the existing retail spaces on streets like Laura.

This what I was getting at right here Lake; I'm not saying that it isn't any retail in those places, but it's hidden. That was back in 2010, so I can imagine that some of those places closed.

www.metrojacksonville.com/article/2010-nov-creating-downtown-vibrancy-by-exposing-secret-retail

[I-10east]

Not to mention the poster only suggested it for weekends only.

^This. And only at night. Not sure how people mistook it as "close down the whole shebang permanently". The examples I listed does just that (weekends only).

Maybe I should have been clearer.

I'll take responsibility for that, my bad. 

[edjax]

Nah.  I think your comment about weekend only was pretty clear.  Some just prefer firing off before reading. 

Btw. Why not close it during First Saturday events also.  Tie events for that event onnRiverwalk, the Landing and Main Library together with more vendors and food trucks lined up Laura to Hemming Plaza with events there too.

[I-10east]

^^^PeeStandingUp was the person that made the weekend comment clear; I'm the person that mistakenly thought that yall was talking about closing Laura off permanently. That's why I said 'my bad' in the earlier post.

[edjax]

^^^^^yes. I know. 

[I-10east]

Damn, after I apologized. So much for the appreciation for integrity and honesty. I can't promise that I will never make a mistake again. This is the world that we live in right now...