The Jacksonville Jaguars

[duvaldude08]

Forget the ring of honor. His off field action has costed him the hall of fame. His name appears on the ballot just about ever year, despite his what we thought was his past. Canton is now definitely giving him the finger. How did he manage to screw up his life this bad.

[Tacachale]

INteresting you think like that.  My guess is that there are far more season ticket holders in PV than from westside proper.

INteresting that you're making assumptions for me.  I didn't assume that there were more or less season ticket holders in PV or CR210 than the westside proper, I just thought it was a solid idea to try and garner more support from fringe areas, and I did assume that there is disposable income in those areas, but didn't compare it to any other localized region as you did.

By the way, I live on the westside, and I'm a season ticket holder x4.  I still might drive out to Nocatee because I'm a fan and I like going to events when my schedule allows.  Anything snarky to add to that?

(Internet fight - Round Dos)

Not being snarky.  Just stating that PV is not a fringe area at all.

There's another rally in Fernandina today. Clearly they're not slighting particular areas.

https://www.facebook.com/events/523515521017198/

[KenFSU]

1.0 meeting 2.0 (hopefully):

https://twitter.com/jaguars/status/334461360786272256/photo/1

[Gators312]

How do you all feel about MJD coming to the defense of Justin Blackmon? 

“The media just blows it out of proportion,” Jones-Drew said. “A lot of people make several mistakes. If you’re that age and you have that amount of money, how would you act? If you answer that question truthfully, you can go from there.”

Shouldn't team leaders require accountability from their teammates?   

MJD has said on record he's tired of losing, but this type of comment makes me wonder if he really does care about winning.  This team has a better chance of winning WITH Blackmon in the lineup rather than without.   

[duvaldude08]

How do you all feel about MJD coming to the defense of Justin Blackmon? 

“The media just blows it out of proportion,” Jones-Drew said. “A lot of people make several mistakes. If you’re that age and you have that amount of money, how would you act? If you answer that question truthfully, you can go from there.”

Shouldn't team leaders require accountability from their teammates?   

MJD has said on record he's tired of losing, but this type of comment makes me wonder if he really does care about winning.  This team has a better chance of winning WITH Blackmon in the lineup rather than without.

Actually I understood what MJD was saying. He wasnt saying that what Blackmon did what okay, but to the extent that he has a drug problem is the being blowed out of whack. At the end of the day, we dont know what Blackmon's situation is. We dont live with him and we dont know what he does on a every day basis. It really could be that he is immature and making bad, untimely decisions. But only he knows that and its not fair for us, or the media to make assumptions or judge mentbased on what were assuming. Dont get me wrong, whatever is going on with he needs to get it in check, but Im reserving judgement on it. Blackmon is the only that knows Blackmon situation.

And remember that MJD went through the same media and fan scrunity last year. We were from the outside looking in and assumed he was just being a diva. However, the part we did not know is that Weaver promised him a new contract, then sold the team, which was wrong on Mr. Weaver. I think he's just saying lay off Blackmon because you dont know his situation.

[KenFSU]

MJD's a valuable asset, but he can be a difficult guy to like off the field. He's been critical of the fanbase in the past, and I believe he's the one who, amidst all the BS relocation drama a few years back, mentioned that he'd love to play for the Los Angeles Jaguars. The guy is welcome to an opinion, but I've long since stopped taking his words seriously. People scrimp and save all year to buy season tickets, and the professional athletes who are paid millions of dollars owe it to the ticket buyers, the television and radio networks, the front office, and the league to do everything in their power to be on the field come game day. When you accept that big salary, you accept big responsibility. Literally thousands of people are depending on you. You can't make the same mistakes a fast food worker makes and expect everyone to shrug it off.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Do we even know what JB was suspended for, yet?

Other than 'violating the SA policy'....

[MEGATRON]

How do you all feel about MJD coming to the defense of Justin Blackmon? 

“The media just blows it out of proportion,” Jones-Drew said. “A lot of people make several mistakes. If you’re that age and you have that amount of money, how would you act? If you answer that question truthfully, you can go from there.”

Shouldn't team leaders require accountability from their teammates?   

MJD has said on record he's tired of losing, but this type of comment makes me wonder if he really does care about winning.  This team has a better chance of winning WITH Blackmon in the lineup rather than without.

Actually I understood what MJD was saying. He wasnt saying that what Blackmon did what okay, but to the extent that he has a drug problem is the being blowed out of whack. At the end of the day, we dont know what Blackmon's situation is. We dont live with him and we dont know what he does on a every day basis. It really could be that he is immature and making bad, untimely decisions. But only he knows that and its not fair for us, or the media to make assumptions or judge mentbased on what were assuming. Dont get me wrong, whatever is going on with he needs to get it in check, but Im reserving judgement on it. Blackmon is the only that knows Blackmon situation.

You can't believe this.  Many in the NFL knew he had substance abuse problems when we drafted him.

[duvaldude08]

How do you all feel about MJD coming to the defense of Justin Blackmon? 

“The media just blows it out of proportion,” Jones-Drew said. “A lot of people make several mistakes. If you’re that age and you have that amount of money, how would you act? If you answer that question truthfully, you can go from there.”

Shouldn't team leaders require accountability from their teammates?   

MJD has said on record he's tired of losing, but this type of comment makes me wonder if he really does care about winning.  This team has a better chance of winning WITH Blackmon in the lineup rather than without.

Actually I understood what MJD was saying. He wasnt saying that what Blackmon did what okay, but to the extent that he has a drug problem is the being blowed out of whack. At the end of the day, we dont know what Blackmon's situation is. We dont live with him and we dont know what he does on a every day basis. It really could be that he is immature and making bad, untimely decisions. But only he knows that and its not fair for us, or the media to make assumptions or judge mentbased on what were assuming. Dont get me wrong, whatever is going on with he needs to get it in check, but Im reserving judgement on it. Blackmon is the only that knows Blackmon situation.

You can't believe this.  Many in the NFL knew he had substance abuse problems when we drafted him.

Well for one, I didnt post my response to have someone agree or disagree with it. I could care less, but as I stated, I dont really have a judgement one way or the other. Being that I am person that has unfairly labeled before, I dont rush to judgement when others make mistakes.

[duvaldude08]

MJD's a valuable asset, but he can be a difficult guy to like off the field. He's been critical of the fanbase in the past, and I believe he's the one who, amidst all the BS relocation drama a few years back, mentioned that he'd love to play for the Los Angeles Jaguars. The guy is welcome to an opinion, but I've long since stopped taking his words seriously. People scrimp and save all year to buy season tickets, and the professional athletes who are paid millions of dollars owe it to the ticket buyers, the television and radio networks, the front office, and the league to do everything in their power to be on the field come game day. When you accept that big salary, you accept big responsibility. Literally thousands of people are depending on you. You can't make the same mistakes a fast food worker makes and expect everyone to shrug it off.

Well I guess I just not as sensative as most fans. Most of the stuff he has said Ive pretty much ignored to be honest.

[Tacachale]

Do we even know what JB was suspended for, yet?

Other than 'violating the SA policy'....

Yeah, that's the real question.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Yeah, that's the real question.

I think so.   I don't know if the program is designed around a specific player's issue or if it's a one-size-fits all approach. 

Meaning, if he was placed in the program for DUI, popping a random piss test for THC while off for the summer does not a hill of beans make.  Maybe he popped a random BA test?  We don't know and are speculating at best.  He's not a dumb kid,  but he is a kid.   We / they make poor decisions sometimes.   And that's the thing, at least for me.... we don't know what or why, only that he was caught doing or having done something he wasn't supposed to.  I would feel a lot differently if this suspension came on the heels of yet another DUI - that would tell me he's just not getting it and needs to rethink his life.  The other things I mentioned....  not exactly news worthy.

RE MJD's comment:  The way MJD thinks everyone is 'blowing it out of proportion' leads me to believe that it's nothing more than a dumb decision. 

Kind of like driving over the speed limit when you know another ticket will cost you your license.  It's not smart.  It can really affect you personally.  But you're not really harming anyone else or putting other lives in danger.

[Wacca Pilatka]

MJD's a valuable asset, but he can be a difficult guy to like off the field. He's been critical of the fanbase in the past, and I believe he's the one who, amidst all the BS relocation drama a few years back, mentioned that he'd love to play for the Los Angeles Jaguars.

I don't remember his saying that at all, and I'm the type to jump on that sort of thing.  I was mad at Fred for the comments four years ago or so that he eventually had to clarify.

MJD has generally had positive things to say about the fan base and city in national forums.  The closest thing I've seen to a dig on Jacksonville coming from him was in an ESPN Magazine article - writer asked something to the effect of how a California guy could possibly like a place like Jacksonville, and MJD responded to the effect of "No, it's really cool here, sometimes you see alligators crossing the road."

[KenFSU]

I was mad at Fred for the comments four years ago or so that he eventually had to clarify.

Yep, you're absolutely right, that was Fred Taylor, not MJD.

I stand corrected

The other comments that bothered me at the time came right after Jacksonville had started to turn things around attendance wise, going from that terrible season where almost every game was blacked out to a season with zero blackouts. It was a big accomplishment considering where the economy was at the time and how the Jags were actually playing, and he still made some comments to several outlets that I felt were rather condescending. Here's an example:

http://jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2011-01-03/story/maurice-jones-drew-says-jaguars-fans-need-step

[Wacca Pilatka]

^ I see what you mean.  I must have missed that story.