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2008 Atlantic hurricane season

Started by gatorback, May 22, 2008, 02:00:38 PM

gatorback

#30
Quote from: Charleston native on July 21, 2008, 02:55:16 PM
WTF? Gator, you can't be serious. You know we're in the middle of hurricane season, right?

Sensationalism, anyone?

Sensationalism?  If I wanted to be a Heny Penny the sky is falling, I would have mentioned the HUGE WAVE Moving off the Coast of Africa today.  Have you seen that thing???  OMFG!!!  RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Katrina was never That big! Lol.


'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

Charleston native

Sorry. Bad day at work. I apologize.

BridgeTroll

But... so far this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

gatorback

No worries.  Anywho, I live in Texas so this thing that's headed straight toward me has me worried.  You see, if the storm hits corpus christi or south of corpus christi the storm will spin tornados that would hit the Austin area. If hit his north of corpus christi then we are fine but then that would cause problems for Houston.  Either way, this is not good even it it's only a 1 or 2 on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

#34
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
But... so far this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all...

Um, are you sure about that? Lol.  We've broken all kinds of records and it's only July 21.  Do me a favor, buy some beef jerky and some water because I don't want you knocking on my door if you fail to prepare.  ;)
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

BridgeTroll

Quote from: gatorback on July 21, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
But... so far this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all...

Um, are you sure about that? Lol.  We've broken all kinds of records and it's only July 21.  Do me a favor, buy some beef jerky and some water because I don't want you knocking on my door if you fail to prepare.  ;)
I am well prepared... with far better than jerky and water!  Records??  What records have been broken?
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

Charleston native

Exactly, BridgeTroll.

Gator, I may have put my comments into a rude context, and I do apologize for that.

But I still think you're over-the-top with the hurricanes. It's completely normal to have a named storm around 'C' or 'D' this time of year, especially in the Gulf. Have you lived in the South long?

gatorback

#37
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: gatorback on July 21, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
But... so far this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all...

Um, are you sure about that? Lol.  We've broken all kinds of records and it's only July 21.  Do me a favor, buy some beef jerky and some water because I don't want you knocking on my door if you fail to prepare.  ;)
I am well prepared... with far better than jerky and water!  Records??  What records have been broken?


Well there's the 1st record Burtha broke--WAIT....You mean you don't know anything Burtha yet you say "this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all."  How about this.  Remove foot from mouth my friend. Lol.

1) No hurricane on record has previously formed so far east in the Atlantic before August 1.
2) No other hurricane has ever lasted this long.
3 is questionalble so far)  I think it increased 20% faster then any storm on record..so 3?)

Whatever you feel is the norm, this year is one for the records.

As global warming occurs, it's quite possible that the tropical Atlantic will itself warm up enough to sustain hurricanes earlier in the year â€" and, at the same time, will stay warm enough to sustain them later in the year. This would suggest a gradual lengthening of the hurricane season on both ends, thanks to an expansion of what scientists call the Atlantic region's "warm pool."
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

Quote from: Charleston native on July 21, 2008, 04:01:42 PM
Exactly, BridgeTroll.

Gator, I may have put my comments into a rude context, and I do apologize for that.

But I still think you're over-the-top with the hurricanes. It's completely normal to have a named storm around 'C' or 'D' this time of year, especially in the Gulf. Have you lived in the South long?

It's all good Charleston.  This season is not normal and it's the earliest we've seen such an intense Atlantic hurricane since the year 2005, when hurricanes Dennis and Emily were Category 4 and 5 storms, respectively, in July. Dennis reached Category 4 strength on July 7 of that year ... the same day on which Bertha exploded three years later.

That's a particularly worrisome precedent because in 2005, the hurricane year only got worse after Dennis â€" featuring Category 5s Katrina, Rita, and Wilma.

I am an avid hurricane tracker, although at this time I live in Texas, but lived in Florida for over 30 years.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

This is not exactly Atlantic basin in nature, but still, more records:

Quote
June 02, 2008

Atlantic Ocean Hurricane Season Starts Early With a Gender Bender

Alma, the first and record-breaking Tropical Storm in the eastern Pacific Ocean formed the last weekend in May. Alma's remnants re-generated into the first tropical storm in the Atlantic Basin, where it was re-named Arthur from the Atlantic Ocean storm name list. Now, it may be headed back into the Pacific!

Tropical Storm Alma has established three new records for an eastern Pacific storm. Alma was the first tropical storm (in the available records) to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Central America when she made landfall on May 29. She also made landfall farther east than any previous eastern pacific tropical cyclone, and was the first to do so on the Pacific coast of Nicaragua.
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

RiversideGator

Gator:  How far back do you think accurate records go?

BridgeTroll

Quote from: gatorback on July 21, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: gatorback on July 21, 2008, 03:16:56 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 03:15:04 PM
But... so far this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all...

Um, are you sure about that? Lol.  We've broken all kinds of records and it's only July 21.  Do me a favor, buy some beef jerky and some water because I don't want you knocking on my door if you fail to prepare.  ;)
I am well prepared... with far better than jerky and water!  Records??  What records have been broken?


Well there's the 1st record Burtha broke--WAIT....You mean you don't know anything Burtha yet you say "this hurricane season is not out of the norm at all."  How about this.  Remove foot from mouth my friend. Lol.

1) No hurricane on record has previously formed so far east in the Atlantic before August 1.
2) No other hurricane has ever lasted this long.
3 is questionalble so far)  I think it increased 20% faster then any storm on record..so 3?)

Whatever you feel is the norm, this year is one for the records.

As global warming occurs, it's quite possible that the tropical Atlantic will itself warm up enough to sustain hurricanes earlier in the year â€" and, at the same time, will stay warm enough to sustain them later in the year. This would suggest a gradual lengthening of the hurricane season on both ends, thanks to an expansion of what scientists call the Atlantic region's "warm pool."

Bertha barely made it to a Cat 1 hurricane... Please post links to the stats you refer to as I could not find anything like what you are saying.
My foot is not... nor has it been... anywhere near my mouth.  This may be something that may happen often in Texas however...
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."

gatorback

ROFLMA ....

Really, you could just google hurricanes to find all these...start with NASA

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2008/h2008_arthur.html

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/blogs/hurricanes-storms/hurricane-bertha-55070901



Tropical Storm Dolly is huge and not so organized but conditions are favorable for stregthening. 
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

gatorback

#43
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 05:03:27 PM

Bertha barely made it to a Cat 1 hurricane...My foot is not... nor has it been... anywhere near my mouth. 

From NASA

As Bertha moved steadily westward, she intensified, first becoming a hurricane and then exploding into a powerful Category 3 major hurricane Monday with 120 mile per hour winds â€" and possibly, for a brief while, a Category 4.

In Texas, we call it the way we see it.  Lovely Foot in mouth BridgeTroll ;)

But, I shouldn't be so critical...I've not a bottle of water in the house, and any food I have would be rotten in 1 day w/out power.   :o
'As a sinner I am truly conscious of having often offended my Creator and I beg him to forgive me, but as a Queen and Sovereign, I am aware of no fault or offence for which I have to render account to anyone here below.'   Mary, queen of Scots to her jailer, Sir Amyas Paulet; October 1586

BridgeTroll

Quote from: gatorback on July 21, 2008, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: BridgeTroll on July 21, 2008, 05:03:27 PM

Bertha barely made it to a Cat 1 hurricane...My foot is not... nor has it been... anywhere near my mouth. 

From NASA

As Bertha moved steadily westward, she intensified, first becoming a hurricane and then exploding into a powerful Category 3 major hurricane Monday with 120 mile per hour winds â€" and possibly, for a brief while, a Category 4.

In Texas, we call it the way we see it.  Lovely Foot in mouth BridgeTroll ;)
While my foot is still comfortbly where it is supposed to be I will concede the strength you cited... however from the NASA site...
QuoteBertha's History

On Monday, July 7th, 2008, Tropical Storm Bertha, which had been steadily making its way westward across the central Atlantic over the past several days, finally intensified and became the first hurricane of the 2008 Atlantic season. Bertha began as the 2nd tropical depression of the season (td #2). Td #2 formed on the morning of July 3, 2008 about 250 miles south-southeast of the Cape Verde Islands from a strong tropical wave moving off of the coast of Africa. Storms that form in this region are known as "Cape Verde" storms. Although not unusual, Cape Verde storms most often occur in August and September during the height of the season.

This is still not unusual... in fact a fairly active year is predicted by most models.  As with most... I will wait to see whether this a record breaking year or not.  If I remember correctly... last year was supposed to have been damn near horrific.
In a boat at sea one of the men began to bore a hole in the bottom of the boat. On being remonstrating with, he answered, "I am only boring under my own seat." "Yes," said his companions, "but when the sea rushes in we shall all be drowned with you."