The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I understand what your saying, kind of, and I'm all for building through the draft, but you take solid players when you have the chance to take solid players.  He (Babin) has 3 years left on his contract.  (?)  Not only does that add depth to a position that we have a need for, it adds more competition at said position. 

Don't you kind of wonder how much better we would be feeling about next year if Gabbert had been afforded the opportunity to sit and develop over the past 2 seasons behind a veteran QB?

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

^If it makes you feel better, there's no way Smith will be around next year. That's the "bigger picture".

I know this will come as a shock to most, but don't be surprised if GS is still here next year either.

[Tacachale]

^If it makes you feel better, there's no way Smith will be around next year. That's the "bigger picture".

I know this will come as a shock to most, but don't be surprised if GS is still here next year either.

I defended Smith for years, but if Khan keeps him, I'll eat my least appetizing hat.

[copperfiend]

One year ago today:

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topstories/article/228975/483/Khan-Owning-Jaguars-a-Dream-Come-True

[copperfiend]

I know this will come as a shock to most, but don't be surprised if GS is still here next year either.

I would be very surprised.

[cline]

^If it makes you feel better, there's no way Smith will be around next year. That's the "bigger picture".

I know this will come as a shock to most, but don't be surprised if GS is still here next year either.

That won't happen but I agree with you on the Babin pickup.  Not a lot invested and he could be productive.  If not we'll cut him.  I'm all for developing talent, but as a season ticket holder, when I go to games I prefer to see wins- not the Jags getting blown out.  If he helps that happen, I'm happy.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

^If it makes you feel better, there's no way Smith will be around next year. That's the "bigger picture".

I know this will come as a shock to most, but don't be surprised if GS is still here next year either.

I defended Smith for years, but if Khan keeps him, I'll eat my least appetizing hat.

Lol, you actually have one that would be considered 'appetizing'...   

Underwear, maybe... to each his own, but a hat?!?

[duvaldude08]

Dear Megatron:

“We’ve got five games and we’re trying to with these games,” Mularkey said. “We’re showing our team we’re trying to win right now. This is not, ‘Play the young guys and do the evaluating.’ We’re trying to win and do whatever we can to improve our roster.”

Mularkey said the addition of Babin could help other players along the front.

Yeah, I saw that.  The head coach always wants to win as do the players.  The GM has to look at the bigger picture.  The next five games don't mean sh*t except to evaluate and develop young talent.  Stop the half measures and rebuild the right way - through the draft.

Megatron, has it ever dawned on you that maybe, you are not right all the time? Just a thought.

If you take a look around the leauge, no other losing team is doing what we are doing. THey have all adopted the "Oh well the season's over, lets just evaluate and piss the fans off." I am VERY impressed at what they are doing. Del Rio NEVER did anything bold. If the team was crappy, it was just crappy and he didnt attempt to do anything about it. I cant remember a player that Del Rio benched because someone was out performing them. Murlkey has done it several times already this season. They have been trying to find ways to win all season and it has finally worked. If want to be content with losing, go follow be a Cheifs fan 

[MEGATRON]

Don't you kind of wonder how much better we would be feeling about next year if Gabbert had been afforded the opportunity to sit and develop over the past 2 seasons behind a veteran QB?

No.  I believe a QB either has it or he doesn't.  Sitting on the bench doesn't do a thing.  If you want to develop a QB on the bench, spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on one, not the tenth overall.  People love to cite Aaron Rodgers as a case study for sitting a QB.  Who's to say that Rodgers would not have kicked ass in his second full year as the starter?

[MEGATRON]

Dear Megatron:

“We’ve got five games and we’re trying to with these games,” Mularkey said. “We’re showing our team we’re trying to win right now. This is not, ‘Play the young guys and do the evaluating.’ We’re trying to win and do whatever we can to improve our roster.”

Mularkey said the addition of Babin could help other players along the front.

Yeah, I saw that.  The head coach always wants to win as do the players.  The GM has to look at the bigger picture.  The next five games don't mean sh*t except to evaluate and develop young talent.  Stop the half measures and rebuild the right way - through the draft.

Megatron, has it ever dawned on you that maybe, you are not right all the time? Just a thought.

If you take a look around the leauge, no other losing team is doing what we are doing. THey have all adopted the "Oh well the season's over, lets just evaluate and piss the fans off." I am VERY impressed at what they are doing. Del Rio NEVER did anything bold. If the team was crappy, it was just crappy and he didnt attempt to do anything about it. I cant remember a player that Del Rio benched because someone was out performing them. Murlkey has done it several times already this season. They have been trying to find ways to win all season and it has finally worked. If want to be content with losing, go follow be a Cheifs fan 

Del Rio was the head coach, not the GM.  What bold move did you expect him to make???  Do you think Mularkey made the Babin move???  Besides, Del Rio was the one who went with Garrard over Leftwich and MJD over Taylor.  Those are pretty bold friggin moves, wouldn't you agree?

You actually think the Chiefs are trying to lose???

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Don't you kind of wonder how much better we would be feeling about next year if Gabbert had been afforded the opportunity to sit and develop over the past 2 seasons behind a veteran QB?

No.  I believe a QB either has it or he doesn't.  Sitting on the bench doesn't do a thing.  If you want to develop a QB on the bench, spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on one, not the tenth overall.  People love to cite Aaron Rodgers as a case study for sitting a QB.  Who's to say that Rodgers would not have kicked ass in his second full year as the starter?

Out of the 17 QBs drafted in the Top 15 from 2001-2010 (With my personal ratings beside them)...  How many of them jumped right in and started making a difference?  How many held a clipboard for a year or two?  How many took time to develop?

It's not just Aaron Rodgers.  I prefer to use Cam Newton - sure, he had a great season (statistically) last year - how many games did the Panthers win?  How's he doing this year?  Wonderkind my ass.

Sam Bradford - TBD
Matthew Stafford - Solid
Mark Sanchez - Meh
Matt Ryan - Solid
JaMarcus Russell - Gone
Vince Young - Gone
Matt Leinart - Backup
Jay Cutler - Average
Alex Smith - Finally getting it
Eli Manning - Solid
Philip Rivers - Solid, but how's he done without LT?
Ben Roethlisberger - Can't stay on the field
Carson Palmer - Right....
Byron Leftwich - Blows
David Carr - Who?
Joey Harrington - Again, Who?
Michael Vick - Decent

[BridgeTroll]

I don't know why this is so hard to wrap your heads around.

Babin from waivers costs us paychecks for 5 games to see if we even want to keep him around next year.

Babin from FA costs us $15MM in signing bonuses and he still may not work out.

If we keep him next year, we owe - paychecks.

If we grab another DE in FA, we owe - huge signing bonus.

The contract isn't even that expensive, considering the amount of sacks he's had over the last few years.

Why can't you just look at this for what it is - we may have just gotten a solid pass rusher for nickles on the dollar.  We may have just gotten the biggest pain-in-the-ass in the locker room that doesn't have any more football in him.  Fact is, we aren't going to have to pay the $10MM- $15MM to find out.

Outstanding analysis... You may be NFL network material...

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

]Del Rio was the head coach, not the GM.  What bold move did you expect him to make???  Do you think Mularkey made the Babin move???  Besides, Del Rio was the one who went with Garrard over Leftwich and MJD over Taylor.  Those are pretty bold friggin moves, wouldn't you agree?

You actually think the Chiefs are trying to lose???

Is it so hard to conceptualize that probably Gene Smith and Mularkey got together about Babin before going to Kahn?  Shit doesn't happen in a vacuum.  In my head the conversation went:

GS - If we get him, can you make him work in your system?
MM - Are you kidding, he's better than anything we've got, let's give it a shot.  What's there to lose?
GS - Nothing, wouldn't you rather play the rookies and see what they've got?
MM - We've played the rooks and they need more time.  Let's bring in the veteran and see if he'll work out semi-long term.  If he doesn't, we cut him next year.  At least it will light a fire under the other guys asses to let them know that no one's job is safe.
GS - Don't I know it.  I'll call Kahn now.
TK - Fuck calling my dad, this is a no brainer - I've already run the numbers through my super-computer - make the call to the NFL.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

Outstanding analysis... You may be NFL network material...

I sent a tape and a resume to 'The Ocho' just this morning...  We'll see what happens.   

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

If you want to develop a QB on the bench, spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on one, not the tenth overall.  People love to cite Aaron Rodgers as a case study for sitting a QB. 

Since I took my Adderol this morning, I'm just going to keep firing away. 

GM Megatron wants to Draft & Develop 3rd & 4th round talent at the QB position, hmmmmm, how's that going to work out for him?  Out of 31 QBs drafted since 2000, only 1 is a viable starter in the NFL - Matt Schaub.  RW's still has to prove himself, though he's doing a decent job and Foles is in by default.  Good luck with your selections Mr. GM Megatron...   

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