The Jacksonville Jaguars

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

we have not seen progress and he was not drafted to sit to seasons. One yes. Two no. I still say he let him finish the season.

Why is it that I'm the only one that seems (or chooses) to remember any of this:

OVERVIEW
Gabbert has it all physically, but has a long way to go before he's ready to lead an NFL offense. He played in a spread offense and will have to learn to take snaps under center and make progressions in the pocket. However, he is a smart football player that seems to understand coverages and he has the arm strength to fit the ball into tight windows. He is also very mobile and elusive in the pocket and shows the ability to make plays with his feet. Overall, Gabbert's tools will be too alluring for a team without a quarterback, and he seems assured to be a top-10 pick, maybe even the first QB off the board.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/blaine-gabbert?id=2495441

The two best prospects are Newton and Gabbert, who both decided to skip their senior seasons to turn pro. Both should have followed Luck’s lead and returned to school.
Auburn’s Newton has thrown only 292 college passes. He’s not near ready to face NFL pass rushes, coverages and defenses. Missouri’s Gabbert has thrown 933 college passes. He’s not ready, either.
Peyton Manning was the highest-rated quarterbacking prospect to come out of the college ranks in the last 20 years. He spent four years on the Tennessee campus and threw 1,381 passes in a stellar career playing against the highest level of competition the college game has to offer in the Southeastern Conference.
But even Manning wasn’t ready for the NFL. He threw an NFL-high 28 interceptions as a rookie and his Colts lost 13 of his 16 starts.
Newton probably doesn’t belong in the Top 5 of this draft. Gabbert probably doesn’t belong in the Top 10. Newton started only one season of major-college football and Gabbert just two. Both lack the polish of a Manning or Ryan. That lack of experience would hold them back in most drafts.
But not in 2011.
I don’t see either Newton or Gabbert sliding past the 12th pick of the first round. Too many teams are in need at that position. The higher a Newton or Gabbert is drafted, the more pressure there will be to get him onto the field.
Complicating the challenge for these two young quarterbacks is that with the NFL in lockout mode, they won’t have the benefit of minicamps and an offseason program this spring to get them up to speed with their new pro offenses. Nor will they be allowed to spend any time with their coaches studying tape or the playbook.
If the lockout lasts until July, Newton and Gabbert would have a mere month to learn the playbook, develop a rapport with their new receivers and prepare for an NFL season. That’s a formula for disaster for a rookie quarterback.
http://www.dallasnews.com/newsletters/nfl/20110406-desire-for-quarterbacks-in-nfl-draft-has-newton-gabbert-in-good-position.ece

With Gabbert sliding, no one expected the Jacksonville Jaguars, one of the least QB needy teams, to trade up for him. Jacksonville traded up from #16 to #10 to select Gabbert while also sending their second round pick to Washington.
Within all the confusion and surprise, this move makes sense to me.
David Garrard (33) is not going anywhere yet.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/04/30/dissecting-the-2011-nfl-draft-round-1/

I guess what I'm saying is that he was considered one of the top prospects in that year's draft, but only due to the QB needs of the teams towards the top.  We had just given Garrard and extension and didn't have a 'need' per se to draft a QB, but when he slid far enough to be available without giving up the farm (a la Redskins / RGIII), we made a move. 

I don't count his first 14 games as anything more than practice.  It's like trying to learn how to line dance during a line dancing competition - you've never danced before, but you can see what everyone else is doing and try your damnedness to to copy them, but your still just a beat or two behind.  Like it or not, this is his first real season, and he's playing like a rookie, give it a rest.

Luck, Weeden, Tannyhill, Ponder, Locker, RGIII... all have more experience than Gabbert - 5 of those 6 played in a offense that featured a QB under center with typical NFL style dropbacks.   I'm not saying that he's 'The One', just give the kid a chance.  There was never hope for Leftwich.  Garrard would still have 2 years on his contract.  Gabbert would still be filling in.

While Henne has the hot hand, let him play... I'm all for that - he's a veteran QB that was a 2nd round pick - he's supposed to be decent, but don't let one game, in which our WRs absolutely balled, give you the impression that Henne's 'The One' either.  For fuck's sake, I can throw 5 yard hitch routes all day... If the WR turns it into a 61 yd TD, then good on me, right?

[duvaldude08]

Poor Gene Smith is toast. You ship off one of your receiver and your QB is benched. I see that is only being the only change in the offseason. Khan has preached about building a stable organization, so I dont see him axing a coaching staff he just hired. That's not how he operates. They'll get to pass go THIS time. If anything, Khan and the coaching staff inherited this mess that WW, JDR and gene smith created.

How o you know that's how he operates?

He said it out his own mouth idiot

[Kaiser Soze]

Poor Gene Smith is toast. You ship off one of your receiver and your QB is benched. I see that is only being the only change in the offseason. Khan has preached about building a stable organization, so I dont see him axing a coaching staff he just hired. That's not how he operates. They'll get to pass go THIS time. If anything, Khan and the coaching staff inherited this mess that WW, JDR and gene smith created.

How o you know that's how he operates?

He said it out his own mouth idiot

And what else did you expect him to say???  Fact is, most top-flight GMs will want to pick their own coach.

[duvaldude08]

Poor Gene Smith is toast. You ship off one of your receiver and your QB is benched. I see that is only being the only change in the offseason. Khan has preached about building a stable organization, so I dont see him axing a coaching staff he just hired. That's not how he operates. They'll get to pass go THIS time. If anything, Khan and the coaching staff inherited this mess that WW, JDR and gene smith created.

How o you know that's how he operates?

He said it out his own mouth idiot

And what else did you expect him to say???  Fact is, most top-flight GMs will want to pick their own coach.

And at the end of this his team and he can what he wants.

[I-10east]

I'm not a fan of our offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski. He seems like one of those old school conservative guys who like to be complacent with a lead, and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. With that fourteen point lead he ran with tight heavy packages for minimal gains, and shortened all of the WR routes; That makes PERFECT sense when freakin' Blackmon was consistently burning them deep. Hey Mel Tucker, when was the last time we blitzed from the secondary? I'm not saying do it often, but you gotta do it every once in a while. I guess that our D is so good that we actually get consistent pass rush with the front four without blitzing...

[comncense]

lol duvaldude do you think Khan WANTED to give Gene Smith a 3 year extension. He probably trusted Wayne Weaver's stamp of approval. As far as Mularkey, it's been well documented that Mularkey and Gene were friends way before Mularkey becoming our coach. I don't think Mularkey has done a bad job with the less than talented team that he's been saddled with, but Khan has repeatedly said that he'll let the people he hires do their jobs. So if a new GM comes in and he's not happy with the current staff and wants to make a change, I don't see Mr. Khan forcing the current coaching staff on him.

As far as Gabbert, whatever happens, we won't be cutting the dude. He'll still be a Jaguar next year. The problem is that this year they made it a point to say he's "The Man". They repeatedly said there is not an open competition at QB. I don't think any of us think that Henne is the answer, but Blaine should have to prove that he deserves to be the starter. Going into next season we should give Blaine a chance but at the same time there should be some serious competition at QB. We should even look into drafting a QB somewhere in the draft. Make Gabbert earn and keep his spot. I don't want to go through another of blindly waiting without having an alternative. It's just frustrating when you see all the other QB's from that draft year having some measure of success with their teams. Hell, even Colin Kaepernick looked good last night and that was against the Bears defense.

[Elwood]

So what's going to be different next year in camp from this year? Henne couldn't beat out Gabbert this year.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

So what's going to be different next year in camp from this year? Henne couldn't beat out Gabbert this year.

Gabbert will have had an ACTUAL season under his belt, another offseason and (hopefully) a second year in Mularkey/Bratkowski's system to prove his worth at #10. 

We'll also probably add another QB to the roster via the draft on Saturday or Sunday.

[copperfiend]

So what's going to be different next year in camp from this year? Henne couldn't beat out Gabbert this year.

Yep. Until two days ago, Gabbert had outplayed Henne at every opportunity. Alot of pundits expected Henne to beat out Gabbert in camp and the preseason. But Henne was awful and you could argue that Jordan Palmer outplayed him despite his physical limitations.

[MEGATRON]

Our 2013 QB is likely either Gabbert or Henne.  With this year's draft and the lack of good QBs available in free agency, I just don;t see that changing.  Would love to see the Jags pick up Mike Glennon of NC State in the second round but I bet he ends up going late first round.  There are simply no QBs in this year's draft that seem worthy of a high first-round grade.  Hopefully, some team falls in love with a Jarvis Jones, Sam Montgomery, Mante Teo, or one of the top WRs and wants to move up, but I don't see that happening.

[duvaldude08]

So what's going to be different next year in camp from this year? Henne couldn't beat out Gabbert this year.

Yep. Until two days ago, Gabbert had outplayed Henne at every opportunity. Alot of pundits expected Henne to beat out Gabbert in camp and the preseason. But Henne was awful and you could argue that Jordan Palmer outplayed him despite his physical limitations.

Well the verdict is still out for me. WE can judge anything by the preseason. They entire team played good during preseason and ended being pure garbage. There also the factor of Henne not getting reps with the first team, so naturally Gabbert is going to look better than him. The Oakland he even admitted he was prepared and it showed.

[duvaldude08]

You guys think there is any chance were going to draft a running back in 2013? The MJD train is slowing down and Jennings has not been effective as a starter. Thoughts?

[MEGATRON]

You guys think there is any chance were going to draft a running back in 2013? The MJD train is slowing down and Jennings has not been effective as a starter. Thoughts?

Maybe late but not early.  Just no point in drafting one early unless its some crazy physical freak like Adrian Peterson.  Look at Jalen Parmelee.  He looked pretty good this past weekend and much better than Jennings.  Guy is a scrap heap player.  The best RB in the league is Arian Foster.  If you can find one in the third round, I say go for it.  Otherwise, the first and second round picks need to go to explosive defensive players.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Agree wholeheartedly with Megatron.  Many, many good RBs are later-round picks and the position is becoming more and more fungible in the NFL.  Guys like Peterson are rare specimens who deserve the high pick; on the other hand, what New Orleans did in throwing away picks for Mark Ingram was not bright (not that he's not a decent back, but he's not a super-special one and they didn't even need him).

I'm disappointed about Jennings.  He was someone I thought would go much higher than the 7th in 2009 and I thought we had a real steal there.  Of course he played well in his limited opportunities in 2009-10, but he's been very disappointing this year.  I thought he'd answer the bell and do a decent job as the starter.  Too bad, because he's a heck of a nice and inspiring guy and I wanted him to be a long-term contributor in Jacksonville.

[MEGATRON]

Yeah, Saints threw away that pick.  Ingram shares carries with Chris Ivory (undrafted FA) and Pierre Thomas (undrafted FA) and Darren Sproles (4th round pick) when they had an again defense.  Stupid.