Army Veteran Kicked out of old navy...

[NavyRet]

Yep....saw that.  The guy was wrong to wear that uniforn, no question about it. BUT, he wasn't trying to convince anyone that he was military or had earned any ribbons or medals displayed. Just an innaproppriate wearing of the uniform.

According to all MOST of the internet rhetoric currently going on, it's no longer "about the jacket," but of Old Navy's response to the VET who "pointed out" the infraction. HE said he was banned, and Old Navy management, mall security and Clay County Sheriff's office said he wasn't. It's now a game of he-said-she-said...

I'm not prepared to follow a movement calling on the boycott-to-bankrupt a company, which would effectively put hundreds of young Americans out of work. To me, the rights of these kids outweigh the sensationalism of this whole story. A guy got his feelings hurt....Old Navy issued SEVERAL appologies...what the hell do they want?

[TheCat]

To me it seems like the employee was "asked" on at least two separate occasions to remove the jacket. it further seems, to me,  that round one and round two are connected. Round 1 failed and round 2 tried again. Round one refused to leave until the employee removed his jacket. Probably the same for round 2, and that would explain why the vetran was escorted off of the premises.

If you read the caption on the image it says "me and a few others". At least three, probably four military personale are in the store and they want this employee to remove his jacket. Sounds like a bit of intimidation, whether they realize it or not.

If this illegal, what happened to calling the police? Are military members super citizens in which their demands supersede domestic law and order. Of course not. They Absolutly do not have the right nor the authority to demand that anyone do anything, especially within the context of an old navy store.

It feels like these guys are stalking this kid.

In two months we'll find out that the one claiming to be the offended veteran was really the one pretending to be a veteran.

[Timkin]

Yep....saw that.  The guys was wrong to wear that uniforn, no question about it. BUT, he wasn't trying to convinve anyone that he was military or had earned any ribbons or medals displayed. Just an innaproppriate wearing of the uniform.

According to all MOST of the internet rhetoric currently going on, it's no longer "about the jacket," but of Old Navy's response to the VET who "pointed out" the infraction. HE said he was banned, and Old Navy management, mall security and Clay County Sheriff's office said he wasn't. It's now a game of he-said-she-said...

I'm not prepared to follow a movement calling on the boycott-to-bankrupt a company, which would effectively put hundreds of young Americans out of work. To me, the rights of these kids outweigh the sensationalism of this whole story. A guy got his feelings hurt....Old Navy issued SEVERAL appologies...what the hell do they want?

^+1  !!!!

[finehoe]

Yep....saw that.  The guys was wrong to wear that uniforn, no question about it.

I think there is a question about it.  It's not illegal unless he is trying to pretend he is actually in the military, which he clearly is not.  Some people obviously have an issue with him wearing it, but that doesn't make it "wrong".  He has every right to wear whatever he pleases.

[Debbie Thompson]

My dad let my brother wear his old WWII Army jacket to school in the 1960's.  The kids thought it was cool.  But I think it's fine for a vet to (nicely, not rudely) express an opinion if he or she feels that way.  As in, "I don't think that's respectful, and as a veteran, I wish he would remove the jacket."  Belligerence and intimidation are something else entirely.  Refusing to leave until you get your way?  You are looking for trouble on purpose.  It is that attitude that will bring the disrespect upon you.

That said, do we know yet what happened?  I haven't seen it anywhere on this thread, and we are on page 4. :-)

[NavyRet]

My dad let my brother wear his old WWII Army jacket to school in the 1960's.  The kids thought it was cool.  But I think it's fine for a vet to (nicely, not rudely) express an opinion if he or she feels that way.  As in, "I don't think that's respectful, and as a veteran, I wish he would remove the jacket."  Belligerence and intimidation are something else entirely.  Refusing to leave until you get your way?  You are looking for trouble on purpose.  It is that attitude that will bring the disrespect upon you.

That said, do we know yet what happened?  I haven't seen it anywhere on this thread, and we are on page 4. :-)

By the looks of the general flow of posts on the Old Navy Face Book group, it appears that Old Navy would like nothing better than to let all this just die down and go away....can't say that I blame them. It is very probable that we will never know the full story of this incident. The news media won't report any more on it unless something sensational or shocking happens. They like to spin stories into frenzies....  That was evident on the way the reporter was reporting this one. No mention of what anyone elese had to say except the "vet"......and that her military boyfriend takes 45 minutes to put on a name tag.  REALLY?

I say we all go have a couple brewskies and shoot some darts. By Monday everyone will be looking for something else to gasp about.

[RockStar]

Yep....saw that.  The guys was wrong to wear that uniforn, no question about it.

I think there is a question about it.  It's not illegal unless he is trying to pretend he is actually in the military, which he clearly is not.  Some people obviously have an issue with him wearing it, but that doesn't make it "wrong".  He has every right to wear whatever he pleases.

Exactly. Nobody's mistaking that guy for a vet.

[BridgeTroll]

Woo hoo!  page 5... can we make it 6??  Cmon guys... I know you have it in you...

[Timkin]

Woo hoo!  page 5... can we make it 6??  Cmon guys... I know you have it in you...

Works for me

[NavyRet]

Heck, I can do 6 pages by myself.   

[Timkin]

To me it seems like the employee was "asked" on at least two separate occasions to remove the jacket. it further seems, to me,  that round one and round two are connected. Round 1 failed and round 2 tried again. Round one refused to leave until the employee removed his jacket. Probably the same for round 2, and that would explain why the veteran was escorted off of the premises.

If you read the caption on the image it says "me and a few others". At least three, probably four military personale are in the store and they want this employee to remove his jacket. Sounds like a bit of intimidation, whether they realize it or not.

If this illegal, what happened to calling the police? Are military members super citizens in which their demands supersede domestic law and order. Of course not. They Absolutely do not have the right nor the authority to demand that anyone do anything, especially within the context of an old navy store.

It feels like these guys are stalking this kid.

That is exactly how I would take it.  If this is not in violation of the Valor act and it is legal for the kid to wear it ( particularly if he bought it , and is NOT trying to impersonate a Military service person), to me that is the end of the discussion.  If these military people do not like it, then don't return to Old Navy.

Most of us will still continue to patronize Old Navy. 

I wish they still had the Antique Truck in some of the Stores

[ChriswUfGator]

Well that didn't last long.

The Supreme Court agreed with pretty much everyone with any common sense who weighed in on this thread, if someone wants to play pretend, then so be it. Free speech.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/supreme-court-rules-that-lying-about-military-medals-protected-by-constitution/2012/06/28/gJQAllBD9V_story.html?tid=pm_pop

[ChriswUfGator]

I know, interestingly enough, the very same two self-professed consititional scholars who always want to give us lectures on how we don't understand the constitution. It's getting to be quite comical indeed.