Why did the other guys lose? Did the best candidate win?

[cityimrov]

The future has arrived and the emotions of the election are now over. 

Why did Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan win the primaries?  Why did the other contenders such as Audrey Moran or Rick Mullaney loose so badly?  Why did other good mayoral candidates like Jim Bailey drop out? 

Overall, out of all the candidates that ran for mayor, do you think Jacksonville choose the best person it could have for mayor?

[Timkin]

Initially, following my gut instinct, I certainly thought so.  Now I'm not so sure. 


Of the candidates that initially ran and either dropped out of the race , or were defeated,  My first choice would have been Glorious Johnson , followed by Audrey Moran.  I regret that neither made it .

I sincerely hope Mayor Brown will surprise me , by the time the next election comes around.  On many levels , he has just not lived up to his promises or reasonable expectation.

[Dog Walker]

Given the choice between Mullaney and anybody, we got the better end of the stick.  Even Hogan (shudder!) would have been better because he isn't smart and evil like Rick, just evil.

[CityLife]

The future has arrived and the emotions of the election are now over. 

Why did Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan win the primaries?  Why did the other contenders such as Audrey Moran or Rick Mullaney loose so badly?  Why did other good mayoral candidates like Jim Bailey drop out? 

Overall, out of all the candidates that ran for mayor, do you think Jacksonville choose the best person it could have for mayor?

Mullaney and Moran split the vote.

If Mullaney had withdrawn, we would have a Mayor Moran right now.

Given the choice between Hogan and Brown, we definitely got the better end of the stick

This^

Will be interesting to see if Moran runs again in 3 years.

[cityimrov]

The future has arrived and the emotions of the election are now over. 

Why did Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan win the primaries?  Why did the other contenders such as Audrey Moran or Rick Mullaney loose so badly?  Why did other good mayoral candidates like Jim Bailey drop out? 

Overall, out of all the candidates that ran for mayor, do you think Jacksonville choose the best person it could have for mayor?

Mullaney and Moran split the vote.

If Mullaney had withdrawn, we would have a Mayor Moran right now.

Given the choice between Hogan and Brown, we definitely got the better end of the stick

Can someone give more details?  How did Brown win the primaries?  Who voted for him?  Could Moran or Mullaney could have gotten their vote?   Did Bailey or Hyde even have a chance? 

The core issue I'm trying to find out is out of all the candidates, did Jacksonville elect the best one?  If not, why not and what could have been done to have them elected as mayor? 

[RockStar]

Please fix the title of this thread before I start cutting myself...

[Timkin]

Don't cut yourself , RS !!

[mtraininjax]

If Mullaney had withdrawn, we would have a Mayor Moran right now.

Given the choice between Hogan and Brown, we definitely got the better end of the stick

Yeah, lol, hundreds of thousands of dollars later after 2 moves to and from the courthouse, almost losing the Jaguars due to overzealous employees, and a city process that has ground to a halt as a result of a CEO who has everything being run by him, AND he still gets the process wrong (Jags). The citizens certainly did elect the best cheerleader, but the on the job training is costing the city, and we'll see if we can afford the next 3 years.

[Bridges]

The future has arrived and the emotions of the election are now over. 

Why did Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan win the primaries?  Why did the other contenders such as Audrey Moran or Rick Mullaney loose so badly?  Why did other good mayoral candidates like Jim Bailey drop out? 

Overall, out of all the candidates that ran for mayor, do you think Jacksonville choose the best person it could have for mayor?

Mullaney and Moran split the vote.

If Mullaney had withdrawn, we would have a Mayor Moran right now.

Given the choice between Hogan and Brown, we definitely got the better end of the stick

Can someone give more details?  How did Brown win the primaries?  Who voted for him?  Could Moran or Mullaney could have gotten their vote?   Did Bailey or Hyde even have a chance? 

The core issue I'm trying to find out is out of all the candidates, did Jacksonville elect the best one?  If not, why not and what could have been done to have them elected as mayor? 

What are you looking for here?  Stephen outlined the answer perfectly for you.

Its an open race with the top 2 candidates competing in a runoff, regardless of party. 

[tufsu1]

and to expound a tad further, Moran tried (and pretty successfully) pulled votes from Republ;icans, Democrats, and Independents....at the end of the day, Brown had a great ground game and his Get Out The Vote efforts, especially on the northside, were impressive.

As Stephen said, there were three major Rs running in the race....had Mullaney dopped out, Moran would have made the run-off with Hogan...and would likely have trounced him in the genetral election.

[Tacachale]

The future has arrived and the emotions of the election are now over. 

Why did Alvin Brown and Mike Hogan win the primaries?  Why did the other contenders such as Audrey Moran or Rick Mullaney loose so badly?  Why did other good mayoral candidates like Jim Bailey drop out? 

Overall, out of all the candidates that ran for mayor, do you think Jacksonville choose the best person it could have for mayor?

Mullaney and Moran split the vote.

If Mullaney had withdrawn, we would have a Mayor Moran right now.

Given the choice between Hogan and Brown, we definitely got the better end of the stick

Can someone give more details?  How did Brown win the primaries?  Who voted for him?  Could Moran or Mullaney could have gotten their vote?   Did Bailey or Hyde even have a chance? 

The core issue I'm trying to find out is out of all the candidates, did Jacksonville elect the best one?  If not, why not and what could have been done to have them elected as mayor? 

As others have said Moran and Mullaney split their base. I'd argue that the two best candidates knocked each other out of the election in a silly race for second they both lost.

Bailey and Hyde saw no chance in such a crowded election, so they bowed out early. Brown ran a solid campaign and came up from behind.

Hogan only lost in the general election because he ran such a terrible campaign and put so many people off that it leveled the field for Brown.

[cityimrov]

and to expound a tad further, Moran tried (and pretty successfully) pulled votes from Republ;icans, Democrats, and Independents....at the end of the day, Brown had a great ground game and his Get Out The Vote efforts, especially on the northside, were impressive.

How were the other candidates "Get Out The Vote efforts"?  Were they as good as Brown? 

[vicupstate]

Often when there are 3 or more strong candidates, the top two will battle scar each other too much and a third one 'runs up the center' to win.  That happened in htis case. Moran and Mullaney let Hogan off scott-free while damaging each other.

Brown was assured a spot in the runoff as the only Democrat of substance in the race. 

Hogan would still have won, but overconfidence killed him.  In essentially an identical situation, 8 years earlier, Peyton didn't let up against Glover.   Hogan was the hare and Brown the turtle.   

 

[Tacachale]

^If Mullaney had bowed out and endorsed Moran, Audrey would have beaten Brown easily in the primary. Don't know if the opposite would necessarily be true. What's clear is that they lost it for each other and it's unlikely either will ever be mayor.

[cityimrov]

^If Mullaney had bowed out and endorsed Moran, Audrey would have beaten Brown easily in the primary. Don't know if the opposite would necessarily be true. What's clear is that they lost it for each other and it's unlikely either will ever be mayor.

So there was absolutely no way for Moran or Mullaney to have won even if they both had knowledge from the future?  It was their destiny to lose? 

Often when there are 3 or more strong candidates, the top two will battle scar each other too much and a third one 'runs up the center' to win.  That happened in htis case. Moran and Mullaney let Hogan off scott-free while damaging each other.   

Something about this feels broken.