Intuition Ale Works looking for second site

[MusicMan]

Stephen, I love that building too. I believe it is a Klutho as well. Would be nice to see someone, ANYONE, renovate it and remove the limestone (?) facade and restore the original brick front. I always thought that would make a great loft conversion as well, especially now that the Park View Inn has been removed.

[CityLife]

I just spoke with Matt Clark about the EHThompson Building and it actually fits the specs to a t.

35 foot ceilings, giant bay doors and 40 thousand square feet of space.

It would transform that area and kickstart main street again.

When renovated it would have the perfect look of a brewery too. Easy access to 95 and Matthews/Main/Hart Bridges. Walkable from the entertainment district/CBD. Located on what should/could be Jacksonville's Central Park. Nearby are other industrial type uses (JEA and a manufacturing business). Plenty of parking. Endless possibilities with the interior. And its also about a quarter mile walk from the FSCJ Skyway Stop. 

[thelakelander]

Not to be a party pooper but they'll need a high dock loading area for trucks or a ramp would have to be created someway to transition product from truck trailers.  Here are a few images of high dock loading areas (including the one they have now):

[CityLife]

Because of how closely the building fronts the street you would possibly have to close off Orange Street for through traffic for a loading ramp. Its not a necessary road, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Photos can't do the interior any justice. The view of the skyline is awesome (which you can't see in the photo tour) and there is a car ramp between the different levels (old car showroom). There are also offices on the 3rd floor. The Main Street side of the first floor has some very intricate tile work and would be an interesting tap room/restaurant.


This gives you an idea of how large the 3rd floor space is. The first floor is similar. Car ramp is to the right


There is a skyline view from the entire left side of the building. The door you see leads to a bunch of offices. The stairs leading to the overhanging platform would probably make the coolest DJ booth/stage in Jax.

[thelakelander]

High loading docks don't have anything to do with flooding.  What's shown in the image along Orange Street is not a high loading dock and does not have the clearance for truck trailers.  A common dock height from ground level falls somewhere between 48"-52".  It would also be a good idea to give yourself a good 135' or so for your loading apron so trucks won't block the street while being loaded/unloaded.  The positive of such an area would mean your property would also have a flexible outdoor area for special events.  With that said, there may be one on the building's east elevation near the creek but I can't really tell.

[jason_contentdg]

I'd be game for that....

[CityLife]

Ennis, I believe the eastern portion might be better suited for a high dock loading ramp. I'll go down and snap some shots later.

Jason I bet you guys could do some amazing things with that building. How much cheaper would it be to rehab it vs. a new building?

[downtownjag]

Call me the party pooper, I want to see Intuition in "Downtown proper", not Springfield.  I'm not familiar with the building Stephen is suggesting, but isn't it in Springfield?

It's my personal opinion that Intuition is going to get a lot more visibility long term, and (again just my opinion) look like more of a staple to the city if it is Downtown, not Springfield.  Plus, with the type business Intuition is, they are probably eligible for empowerment and enterprise zone credits and savings by being Downtown. 

All just friendly suggestions on this forum, that's just mine.

[CityLife]

Call me the party pooper, I want to see Intuition in "Downtown proper", not Springfield.  I'm not familiar with the building Stephen is suggesting, but isn't it in Springfield?

It's my personal opinion that Intuition is going to get a lot more visibility long term, and (again just my opinion) look like more of a staple to the city if it is Downtown, not Springfield.  Plus, with the type business Intuition is, they are probably eligible for empowerment and enterprise zone credits and savings by being Downtown. 

All just friendly suggestions on this forum, that's just mine.

Its actually as much downtown as it is in Springfield. Its across from the corner of State and Main, and a block away from the new 7-11. Many people consider the Confederate/Klutho Parks system as the beginning of Springfield and this is south of that. Its not as high profile as the riverfront or old library, but its a really, really cool building right next to what should be Jacksonville's Central Park. There is serious long term potential in this area.

And the enterprise/empowerment credits are also available in Springfield.

http://www.coj.net/getmedia/d0f8a0e3-5f5f-4ac6-86b3-d9bbc93b5b7e/Main-EZone-Map.aspx

[jason_contentdg]

Ennis, I believe the eastern portion might be better suited for a high dock loading ramp. I'll go down and snap some shots later.

Jason I bet you guys could do some amazing things with that building. How much cheaper would it be to rehab it vs. a new building?

Tough to know in regards to rehabbing vs. new construction.  I'm sure new construction (depending on the type) somewhere could be cheaper than rehabbing this particular building, depending on how much rehab work you are doing.  If you don't touch every space/finish it may come out a bit even or cheaper.  That being said, to build this type of space from the ground up, with masonry and heavy timber structure - to essentially do a replica of this building would be very expensive. It's a great building...and I would love for us to get our hands on it. 

Also, that third floor could make an incredible indoor/outdoor biergarten.

[downtownjag]

Call me the party pooper, I want to see Intuition in "Downtown proper", not Springfield.  I'm not familiar with the building Stephen is suggesting, but isn't it in Springfield?

It's my personal opinion that Intuition is going to get a lot more visibility long term, and (again just my opinion) look like more of a staple to the city if it is Downtown, not Springfield.  Plus, with the type business Intuition is, they are probably eligible for empowerment and enterprise zone credits and savings by being Downtown. 

All just friendly suggestions on this forum, that's just mine.

Its actually as much downtown as it is in Springfield. Its across from the corner of State and Main, and a block away from the new 7-11. Many people consider the Confederate/Klutho Parks system as the beginning of Springfield and this is south of that. Its not as high profile as the riverfront or old library, but its a really, really cool building right next to what should be Jacksonville's Central Park. There is serious long term potential in this area.

And the enterprise/empowerment credits are also available in Springfield.

http://www.coj.net/getmedia/d0f8a0e3-5f5f-4ac6-86b3-d9bbc93b5b7e/Main-EZone-Map.aspx

OK, I know the area... North side of State?

[CityLife]

Its the building immediately north of the old Park View Inn.

[downtownjag]

Its the building immediately north of the old Park View Inn.

Ehhh... I always kinda viewed Union or State towards the river as "Downtown".  Anyways, thanks for clarifying... What about the building where Kartushe (spelling) was?  That whole area could be sparked by someone like Intuition.. (Just another friendly suggestion)

Loading docks aren't always necessary because you can always put in truck wells pretty easily. 

[thelakelander]

^They looked at Kartouche.  Evidently, it needed more work than they were willing to put in.

[downtownjag]

Guardian Commercial has a building for sale next to Burro bags, it was the old barn/stable... what about that?