Intuition Ale Works looking for second site

Started by thelakelander, May 19, 2012, 12:17:58 AM

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Quote from: fieldafm on May 22, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
Is this the cheapest option?  Probably not, but if I am spending Intution's imaginary money a riverfront taproom overlooking the Bay Street Public Pier at Bay Street Pier Park along a completed Riverwalk would at least be something I would explore.

I don't see why the city can't offer some of the Shipyards land to Intuition at a significantly reduced rate (or heck free) as an incentive. And you would also think Intuition would be a little more likely to spend an extra buck or two for prime real estate. I think Mr. Davis gave us a little insight into his ideal situation with this line on page 1 "Imagine a biergarten on the river!"

Its really a win-win for all parties.

Intuition develops part of the site, thus making the rest of the Shipyards more attractive for development. It would make the old courthouse/city hall site more attractive for a convention center or major development. It would bring more people to events at the arena/baseball grounds (major complaint is lack of nearby entertainment). It would put at least part of the shipyards back on the tax rolls. All bringing in more money directly to the city.

Intuition gets prime real estate and is able to open a high profile brewery. It becomes a destination for downtown visitors. It draws people from the entertainment district, riverwalk, sports district, etc. A biergarten that serves fresh beer and food along the river would make serious bank, not to mention the potential for brewery tours.

And we citizens of Jacksonville get an awesome locally owned and operated brewery downtown. Win win win. Make it happen Mayor Brown.


blizz01


downtownjag

Not gonna happen, would be great, but not gonna happen.

Too bad the Greyhound station hasn't moved yet, that old facility could easily be converted.  Truck wells can be installed and the roof is high enough in areas for the brewing facility. 

mtraininjax

QuoteAnd we citizens of Jacksonville get an awesome locally owned and operated brewery downtown. Win win win. Make it happen Mayor Brown.

+1
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tufsu1

Quote from: downtownjag on May 22, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Not gonna happen, would be great, but not gonna happen.

Too bad the Greyhound station hasn't moved yet, that old facility could easily be converted.  Truck wells can be installed and the roof is high enough in areas for the brewing facility. 

this might actually be a great idea, assuming that JTA is still working on building a new Greyhound station...

I'm not sure the building has 30' height, but it could be a solid structure to build off of

mtraininjax

QuoteI'm not sure the building has 30' height, but it could be a solid structure to build off of

Provided there is no environmental left behind after all those years of leaking oil into the ground.....
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02roadking

The former Union Terminal Company warehouse, at 648 East Union Street. Is this building being used for anything or for sale?
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ben says

is there a preexisting height restriction in the brooklyn/park street area? thinking one of those one/two story buildings, near the florist and 'da tunnel' can be raised to the 30' required.
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Quote from: tufsu1 on May 22, 2012, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: downtownjag on May 22, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Not gonna happen, would be great, but not gonna happen.

Too bad the Greyhound station hasn't moved yet, that old facility could easily be converted.  Truck wells can be installed and the roof is high enough in areas for the brewing facility. 

this might actually be a great idea, assuming that JTA is still working on building a new Greyhound station...

I'm not sure the building has 30' height, but it could be a solid structure to build off of

If you think the crowd that hangs out at the Greyhound station looks rough now.....  Imagine if Intuition was there.  Just sayin'.   ;D
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Quote from: JeffreyS on May 22, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
Quote from: blizz01 on May 22, 2012, 01:21:22 PM
Rooftop deck too, please....
Yes please at the shipyards location.

Biergarten on the water and Rooftop Deck. Gamechanger.

If that were to happen at the Shipyards site, it would be great to attach a restaurant/restaurants to the project. I'm sure many of the most successful in town restaurants would love to be a part of such a development. I don't know what Terry Lorrince does on a day to day basis, but if I'm her I'm trying to work with Intuition, Mayors Office, Restaurants, and JEDC to make this happen. Screw marketing and promotional BS. Make something happen.



downtownjag

Quote from: tufsu1 on May 22, 2012, 02:49:52 PM
Quote from: downtownjag on May 22, 2012, 01:35:12 PM
Not gonna happen, would be great, but not gonna happen.

Too bad the Greyhound station hasn't moved yet, that old facility could easily be converted.  Truck wells can be installed and the roof is high enough in areas for the brewing facility. 

this might actually be a great idea, assuming that JTA is still working on building a new Greyhound station...

I'm not sure the building has 30' height, but it could be a solid structure to build off of

Thanks!  It's one of the few areas of DT that has great ingress/egress for beer trucks, etc and is very central.  It's probably a pipe dream, along with, in my opinion, the old library (unless he leases) and the shipyards though.

There are a few old warehouses by Wormans that may work for Ben though.  The best would be if he put it in the old firehouse across from the old courthouse, but there is absolutely no parking... It would just make one hell of an Intuition bar/taproom

mtraininjax

QuoteScrew marketing and promotional BS. Make something happen.

+1 Exactly, forget the ideas here, make it happen.
And, that $115 will save Jacksonville from financial ruin. - Mayor John Peyton

"This is a game-changer. This is what I mean when I say taking Jacksonville to the next level."
-Mayor Alvin Brown on new video boards at Everbank Field

daveandcatherine

I don't think I've seen it mentioned here but what about the old Quality Foods in Springfield (Between Main and Market-7/8th) don't know about ceiling height but it's a pretty large space with a loading dock and parking. Could be a game changer for Springfield.

thelakelander

40,000 square feet may be too large but does it have a high dock loading area?

Quote from: Intuition Ale Works on May 21, 2012, 01:27:59 PM

Thanks again for all the suggestions but I want to make our needs clear.

We are looking for a very large space, at least 15,000 sq/ft with more room for expansion and need 30' foot high ceilings for a majority of the space.
Plus we need an easily accessible dock high loading area


We are currently in a 12,000 warehouse and have outgrown in a year and a half. I will not be in the same situation again.

The library is an interesting option. It would give us room to grow, high ceilings, lack of A/C is not a negative as climate control is a waste in a Florida brewery, and the location is great.
But I think the lack of a legitimate loading and unloading area rules it out.

I really would love to go into an existing building but this is the second time I have targeted downtown and I am inclined to think building a new structure is the most realistic option.

Maybe there is a space that we could make taller? Not sure

I really hope we can make this happen. I want to help downtown's revitalization.

Ben
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