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[BigGuy219]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

[duvaldude08]

KenFSU, Tim is NOT going to go to a team to become a starting QB and have a season like last year. The Broncos were in a VERY weak division last year. Generally you don't go 8-8 and WIN a division, especially not in the AFC South. Had they not won the division they would not have even been in the playoffs. Then they went on to beat a beat up Pittsburg team that played themselves because they overplayed the run all game. Reality set in when the Pats blew out the Broncos. More often than not Tebow would experience games like what the Pats put on him. 9 for 26 and 140 something yards passing.

And all the media outlets are saying Tebow is going to Jax because of ticket sales and the fact they harp on the false stereotype that we don't sell out our games and the dumb idea that we are going to take the tarps off. It's not because they feel Tebow will come here and be a great quarterback and succeed.

We don't sell our games out. We are in worse shape than you think we are. Had it not been for Annheiser Busch and Wayne Weaver buying up tickets last year, we would have had most games blacked out. We are NOT at a  healthy ticket level, don't fool yourself. If we can get tebow for a fourth or fifth round pick and tebow agrees to it, then the Jags should definitely go for it.

Dan,

If Im not mistaken, you havent attended a game in over ten years, how would you even know. ? Also we are aware of the games where tickets were bought up, thats no secret. It was made known to the public. The lockout and terriable season combined wasnt exactly a recipe for fans to run to the ticket office. The beginning of the season started strong, but once the losing persisted attendance begin to slack off. Trust me, I attend the game week and out. The people were there. There only only two or three games where it look a little thing.

Yes, you are mistaken. I go every year. I have never owned season tickets, but I attend at least one game a year, so I guess according to Khan and you I am not a true fan. I am just saying, not every game was a sellout. We had to be bailed several times. We defintiely aren't sold out on the club seat area, so lets not pretend that we are  selling out year in and year out. We are barely avoiding blackouts only.

Per the gates receipts, we had an attendance no less that 62,000 every game. Thats not exactly empty. And IF WW bought up tickets at the last minute, and a crowd of 62,000-63,000 still showed up to the game, it was smart because he got the game on TV and made the money back he spent on the tickets. Weve been selling more than team with a population 3 times our size i.e. Miami and Tampa, and we have a bigger stadium. so in the grand scheme of things, there is no "attendance problem". The size of the stadium is the problem.

[ben says]

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

That's it? A single playoff game in dramatic fashion? Wow...player of the century right there....

[duvaldude08]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

He's is a great person, but a terriable QB. Im sorry we are not clamoring for a QB that was rank dead last out of every single QB in the League, including Gabbert

[thelakelander]

I think you may be reading a little too much into the article.

I think this article is just saying that Khan ended trade negotiations for the evening, not ended overall trade negotiations. Talks are expected to resume this morning. Nowhere in the article does it say that Khan ended negotations for the evening because Tebow preferred playing time over location.

Yeah.  There's no way he'd flat out be given the opportunity to start for the Jets.  By the way, if he does go to NYC, we've got a real life Devil's Advocate situation on our hands, lol.

[BigGuy219]

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

That's it? A single playoff game in dramatic fashion? Wow...player of the century right there....

He has more playoff wins than Chad Henne and Blaine Gabbert combined.

[BigGuy219]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

He's is a great person, but a terriable QB. Im sorry we are not clamoring for a QB that was rank dead last out of every single QB in the League, including Gabbert

He took an AFC team that was going nowhere and got them set on winning ways culminating in a playoff win.

I'll sign up for that any day of the week.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

To be clear, we don't hate Tebow, the guy.  We hate the idea of Tebow, the QB, being on our team.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

Sure.  Tell that to Demarius Thomas, Von Miller, Matt Prater and Willis McGahee

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

So you saw thier D cause a fumble during a critical moment.  You watched other teams choke at the end of the game.  You watched Prater boom kicks of 48+ yards.  You watche Thomas elude a tackle and outrun everyone to the endzone. 

There was no better story in the NFL.

Drew Brees set the yardage record.  3 Teams were undefeated more than halfway through the season.  MJD won J'villes first ever rushing title - with no passing game at all.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

Then lost the next one in a not so dramatic blow-out.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

His inability to read coverages.  His wobbly passes.  His sub 50% completion percentage.  His tendency to run instead of throw.  His requiring an entire offense to be changed to fit his style of play

[duvaldude08]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

He's is a great person, but a terriable QB. Im sorry we are not clamoring for a QB that was rank dead last out of every single QB in the League, including Gabbert

He took an AFC team that was going nowhere and got them set on winning ways culminating in a playoff win.

I'll sign up for that any day of the week.

They went 8-8. Hell the Jags did that under Garrad.

[jandar]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

He's is a great person, but a terriable QB. Im sorry we are not clamoring for a QB that was rank dead last out of every single QB in the League, including Gabbert

He took an AFC team that was going nowhere and got them set on winning ways culminating in a playoff win.

I'll sign up for that any day of the week.

A Marion Barber fumble instead of running out the clock led to a win.
The Broncos backed into the playoffs after losing their last three games and having others losing as well. Leaving them as the division winner @ 8-8.

The win against pittsburgh was a 15 yard route that the defender whiffed on the tackle and the receiver, not Timmy T, the receiver ran the other 65 yards to score the winning TD.


Wayne Weaver did a study before the 2010 draft. They found out that if they drafted Tebow, the study showed that they would get 6000 more tickets. That's not enough to take the tarps off.
Sure, it might put a few more butts in the seats. But how many of them would be wearing Gator Jerseys? How many would boo when Gabbert threw an incompletion, or an interception.
Would those same fans do the same if Tebow threw a pick or an incompletion?

The short term gains would help, the long term gains would hurt. This has debacle written all over it.

[jandar]

I love cheering for that guy on Denver's team that shows great leadership and is great at his position and is from Jacksonville.


Oh, you thought I meant Tebow, Brian Dawkins gets no love from his hometown.

[duvaldude08]

I can't believe how many Tebow haters are in this thread.

He was the most electrifying player in the NFL last season.

I watched him time after time lead his team back in the 4th quarter for one improbable win after another.

There was no better story in the NFL.

Not to mention he won a playoff game in dramatic fashion.

What's not to like about this kid on the field?

He's is a great person, but a terriable QB. Im sorry we are not clamoring for a QB that was rank dead last out of every single QB in the League, including Gabbert

He took an AFC team that was going nowhere and got them set on winning ways culminating in a playoff win.

I'll sign up for that any day of the week.

A Marion Barber fumble instead of running out the clock led to a win.
The Broncos backed into the playoffs after losing their last three games and having others losing as well. Leaving them as the division winner @ 8-8.

The win against pittsburgh was a 15 yard route that the defender whiffed on the tackle and the receiver, not Timmy T, the receiver ran the other 65 yards to score the winning TD.


Wayne Weaver did a study before the 2010 draft. They found out that if they drafted Tebow, the study showed that they would get 6000 more tickets. That's not enough to take the tarps off.
Sure, it might put a few more butts in the seats. But how many of them would be wearing Gator Jerseys? How many would boo when Gabbert threw an incompletion, or an interception.
Would those same fans do the same if Tebow threw a pick or an incompletion?

The short term gains would help, the long term gains would hurt. This has debacle written all over it.

If we dont let Tebow start, those people will pack up and leave as quick as they came. This has one year gimmick written all over it.

[Dapperdan]

Really, he was the worst QB in the league? Lets look at the stats from last year ( regualr season) only

BG:
     CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       210  413   2,214  50.8      5.36  12     74     11     5     65.4     

Tebow:
      CMP   ATT    YDS   CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       126   271  1,729  46.5     6.38  12     56      6      7     72.9

Beisdes the completage rate, seems to me that he is slightly better than Gabbert in every other area including overall QB rating. Even with the completage rate, BG is still barely ahead of him with that.

One more important stat
BG : playoff appearances 0 Playoff wins 0
Tebow: playoff appearances 2 Playoff wins 1
         

[duvaldude08]

Really, he was the worst QB in the league? Lets look at the stats from last year ( regualr season) only

BG:
     CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       210  413   2,214  50.8      5.36  12     74     11     5     65.4     

Tebow:
      CMP   ATT    YDS   CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       126   271  1,729  46.5     6.38  12     56      6      7     72.9

Beisdes the completage rate, seems to me that he is slightly better than Gabbert in every other area including overall QB rating. Even with the completage rate, BG is still barely ahead of him with that.

One more important stat
BG : playoff appearances 0 Playoff wins 0
Tebow: playoff appearances 2 Playoff wins 1
       

Completion rating is whats important. If you only complete 46% of your passes, you have a problem. Not to mention, Tebow was not the only person on the team. The running back, kicker and their defense are actually the ones who were winning the games, not him.

[Dapperdan]

Really, he was the worst QB in the league? Lets look at the stats from last year ( regualr season) only

BG:
     CMP    ATT    YDS    CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       210  413   2,214  50.8      5.36  12     74     11     5     65.4     

Tebow:
      CMP   ATT    YDS   CMP%   AVG   TD   LNG   INT   FUM   RAT
       126   271  1,729  46.5     6.38  12     56      6      7     72.9

Beisdes the completage rate, seems to me that he is slightly better than Gabbert in every other area including overall QB rating. Even with the completage rate, BG is still barely ahead of him with that.

One more important stat
BG : playoff appearances 0 Playoff wins 0
Tebow: playoff appearances 2 Playoff wins 1
       

Completion rating is whats important. If you only complete 46% of your passes, you have a problem. Not to mention, Tebow was not the only person on the team. The running back, kicker and their defense are actually the ones who were winning the games, not him.

It was a team effort, but how come the Broncos only had 3 wins in the previous 17 games before Tebow? Why weren't they all contributing before Tebow??

Let me get this staright, 46.5 is a terrible completage rate, but 50.8 is apparently way better?