The Jacksonville Jaguars

[KenFSU]

I respect the passion of you guys who think Tebow is a bad idea for the Jags.

A more interesting question though:

What do you think will happen?

How do you guys see this ending?

Khan has a big, somewhat no-win decision on his hands, and the fact that he hasn't publicly commented beyond a no comment leads me to believe there is at least some smoke to the fire.

Edit:

News just broke that the Jags have indeed discussed a trade for Tebow, along with the Packers, Dolphins, and Jets:
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7714138

[bill]

Anything more than a 4th round pick would be a waste.

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

The same thing that happens when you see your parents, not Santa Claus, putting presents under the tree.  Christmas is never the same again.

As long as Tebow is not in Jacksonville, it will always be someone else's fault for him not being the greatest.  The Tebowans will forever cast their hate towards the Denver Broncos because they 'never gave him a chance'.  As Wacca mentioned, if Tebow were to come here and fail - it would be the fault of the Jaguars and Jacksonville or Shahid Khan or Gene Smith or Mike Mularkey or Jones Drew or Laurent Robinson or Josh Scobee or.... anyone not named Tebow.   

The reason so many of us resent the idea of coming here is because we believe that he doesn't have the skillset of a true NFL QB and that there would possibly be long-lasting damage done to the franchise if he were to come here and fail.  There's a part of me that thinks he may figure it out and become a great player, I just don't want my franchise to be the one to take that chance. 

[Non-RedNeck Westsider]

I respect the passion of you guys who think Tebow is a bad idea for the Jags.

A more interesting question though:

What do you think will happen?

I honestly think that he'll wind up in New England.  They have the stability at QB and HC to quell the Tebowans call to make him the starting QB.  He can learn the game in a system that is proven.  Bill Belichick isn't afraid to play someone out of position.  After reading the book, "War Room", the impression that I get from BB is that he will assign a task and expect perfection.  If you can repeat perfection, but don't ask for any more responsibilty, he doesn't need you.  If you can't achieve perfection and settle for average, he doesn't need you.  A BB player always wants to learn more and do more - the Patriot way.  It's about the team. 

I think in that environment, Tim can learn the QB position by watching one of the greatest up close and personal, while still getting the opportunity to play in a more non-traditional role - whether it be TE, RB or even LB or SS.  That's the beauty of the Pats system and thier coach.

How do you guys see this ending?

I can't say.  I believe either way, Timmy a Jag or Timmy not a Jag, there will always be a stigma with regards to Khans comments about drafting Tebow.  I hope I see this ending with Blaine Gabbert putting us in the playoffs year in and year out, Gene Smith finally getting the respect he deserves with his Draft & Develop / BAP philosophy and the Tebow thing finally is put to rest.  [/quote]

Khan has a big, somewhat no-win decision on his hands, and the fact that he hasn't publicly commented beyond a no comment leads me to believe there is at least some smoke to the fire.

He's wishing he had 'no comment' before the season.  He's smartly hiding behind the tampering clause now.

[duvaldude08]

I respect the passion of you guys who think Tebow is a bad idea for the Jags.

A more interesting question though:

What do you think will happen?

How do you guys see this ending?

Khan has a big, somewhat no-win decision on his hands, and the fact that he hasn't publicly commented beyond a no comment leads me to believe there is at least some smoke to the fire.

Edit:

News just broke that the Jags have indeed discussed a trade for Tebow, along with the Packers, Dolphins, and Jets:
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=7714138

How would they know what someone discussed "internally"? This still sounds like speculation to me. I wouldn't doubt that the Jags are talking about it. Weighing the If, and's a buts of the situation. Trying to determine if its worth the risk, and all that garbage. Believe or not, I wouldn't mind us trading for Tebow. But in my scenario he would be a 3rd string QB on our roster and nothing more. If we trade for him and make him #3, I'm okay with that.

[aclchampion]

Jaguars just signed free agent cornerback Aaron Ross, formerly with the Super Bowl winning NY Giants to a 15.3 million dollar deal.

[duvaldude08]

Jaguars just signed free agent cornerback Aaron Ross, formerly with the Super Bowl winning NY Giants to a 15.3 million dollar deal.

Youre so Late! 

[aclchampion]

How late??

[duvaldude08]

How late??

Just a few hours. LOL

[Dapperdan]

Based on Weavers own studies, there will be at least 6,000 new season ticket holders. I think it would be more around 10k. Would that not help fill the stadium dramatically?

Would it put a winning product on the field?  Probably not. and a study does not equate to people ACTUALLY buying the damn tickets. Putting winning product will fill the stadium regardless of WHO the QB is. Winning gets you a slew of media attention, regardless of the QB is. TEBOW AINT SHIT. Yes I said it. He aint shit. Hes a great guy, a great leader, but as a QB HE AINT SHIT. He can not play in an NFL style offense. Even though gabbert struggled, he was playing in an NFL style offense. Tebow could not even produce more than a 46% QB rating in an offense that was designed specifically for him. How sad is that? They built a team around him and barely made it 8-8. I am very passionate about this franchise and we are in no position to set this franchise back even further for somebody just because they are from here.

Winning does not equal  more fans, I am afraid to say. Just ask Tampa. Also, your point about them just being 8-8 is silly. What was our record last year again? So, we have  a QB that plays in a  "pro" style offense but can only manage to win a  handful of games at best, but we consider that a  success.  Denver , however arguably played  more and more pro style as the year went on, and went 8-8 and had a win in the playoffoffs, but that is somehow a failure? I guess I just don't get it. 

  Let me ask you this. Do you have a problem bringing in Tebow to be a half back, or tight end type player? Imagine lining him up to the left of whoever our QB is and teams not knowing whether he will run or get the ball to pass it. Ypou have to at least admit he is athletic enough to get some good runs and some nice wildcat type plays. Would that not be worth a fifth round pick?

[CityLife]

We can speculate as to how many new ticket sales Tebow will bring and how many jerseys he will sell, but ultimately the only question that matters is, Is he a better QB than Blaine Gabbert? Will he start over Gabbert?

Because if he isn't and if he doesn't start over Gabbert, we are going to have a torn fan base and fans that will turn on Gabbert the first chance they get. Look at Tebow's freshmen year at UF. It was a freaking joke. Chris Leak was a very good college quarterback and led that team to a national title. Yet many UF fans didn't give him any respect and wanted Tebow to start. Despite the fact that Leak was clearly the better QB at the time.

If we bring Tebow in and he sits the bench, we are going to have some very upset fans. Especially from ones who bought season tickets because of Tebow.

Gabbert imo, is a much better long term option. Last season he had a much worse oline than Tebow, had less WR threats, and a year less of NFL experience. Plus he went pro early and is actually a full 2 years younger than Tebow. If the Jags bring Tebow in, they better be ready to trade Gabbert, because it wouldn't be fair to have half the city rooting against him.

[duvaldude08]

Based on Weavers own studies, there will be at least 6,000 new season ticket holders. I think it would be more around 10k. Would that not help fill the stadium dramatically?

Would it put a winning product on the field?  Probably not. and a study does not equate to people ACTUALLY buying the damn tickets. Putting winning product will fill the stadium regardless of WHO the QB is. Winning gets you a slew of media attention, regardless of the QB is. TEBOW AINT SHIT. Yes I said it. He aint shit. Hes a great guy, a great leader, but as a QB HE AINT SHIT. He can not play in an NFL style offense. Even though gabbert struggled, he was playing in an NFL style offense. Tebow could not even produce more than a 46% QB rating in an offense that was designed specifically for him. How sad is that? They built a team around him and barely made it 8-8. I am very passionate about this franchise and we are in no position to set this franchise back even further for somebody just because they are from here.

Winning does not equal  more fans, I am afraid to say. Just ask Tampa. Also, your point about them just being 8-8 is silly. What was our record last year again? So, we have  a QB that plays in a  "pro" style offense but can only manage to win a  handful of games at best, but we consider that a  success.  Denver , however arguably played  more and more pro style as the year went on, and went 8-8 and had a win in the playoffoffs, but that is somehow a failure? I guess I just don't get it. 

  Let me ask you this. Do you have a problem bringing in Tebow to be a half back, or tight end type player? Imagine lining him up to the left of whoever our QB is and teams not knowing whether he will run or get the ball to pass it. Ypou have to at least admit he is athletic enough to get some good runs and some nice wildcat type plays. Would that not be worth a fifth round pick?

Your missing the point. I agree the BRONCOS played at high level, however Tebow did not. They built the team around him and he could not even function in an offense that was taylor made for him. And for the record, they only won 3 more games than us, and must of them were by a field of TD. That is not exactly an elite offense. 4 of our 5 games were determined by a FG or TD. So their "winning" was a crock in the grand scheme of things. If their division was half way decent, they would not have even been in the playoffs.

[aclchampion]

How late??

Just a few hours. LOL

Ah well. Its not in our local fish wrapper so I figured it had just happened.

[duvaldude08]

We can speculate as to how many new ticket sales Tebow will bring and how many jerseys he will sell, but ultimately the only question that matters is, Is he a better QB than Blaine Gabbert? Will he start over Gabbert?

Because if he isn't and if he doesn't start over Gabbert, we are going to have a torn fan base and fans that will turn on Gabbert the first chance they get. Look at Tebow's freshmen year at UF. It was a freaking joke. Chris Leak was a very good college quarterback and led that team to a national title. Yet many UF fans didn't give him any respect and wanted Tebow to start. Despite the fact that Leak was clearly the better QB at the time.

If we bring Tebow in and he sits the bench, we are going to have some very upset fans. Especially from ones who bought season tickets because of Tebow.

Gabbert imo, is a much better long term option. Last season he had a much worse oline than Tebow, had less WR threats, and a year less of NFL experience. Plus he went pro early and is actually a full 2 years younger than Tebow. If the Jags bring Tebow in, they better be ready to trade Gabbert, because it wouldn't be fair to have half the city rooting against him.

I agree 100%. As soon as he throws an interception, " Tebow Tebow Tebow."

[duvaldude08]

The Denver Broncos are drawing moderate trade interest in Tim Tebow. Not spectacular. Not great. But solid.

I'm told five to six teams have called the Broncos and that the number might be higher. The compensation being discussed is a low-round draft pick, a person familiar with the situation said. This source believes Tebow will be traded for a fifth- or sixth-round pick.

For now, no one will say which teams are calling.League speculation -- and it's just general managers chatting -- is that the Jaguars are serious contenders for Tebow. no one would be surprised if he ended up in New England.

The Broncos believe they'll be able to trade Tebow by the end of the week. There remains a distinct possibility that if he isn't traded the team would simply release Tebow. There doesn't seem to be a desire by the Broncos to keep him. At least for the moment there isn't.

All of this is extremely fluid and could change. For the moment, it's a mess.

But we should have clarity very soon.

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