Riverside Arts Market opens Fourth Season

[thelakelander]

RAP did not found the merchants associations incidentally, and any such claim is pretty ludicrous.

Btw.  Where does this claim come from that RAP forced Publix to develop a new type of footprint that they use to this day?

Ive never been able to confirm that.

it would be cool if it is true.

Didn't say they did found the merchants' association.  Said that they facilitated (encouraged, consulted).  They actually let 5 Points use their bank account for a while when the association's 501(c)3 lapsed.

My source for the Publix redesign statement was Lisa Shepphard.  RAP architectural review board went skyward rapidly when the first plans were submitted and members of that committee and HPC staff, including Lisa, redrew it.  They didn't get all of what they wanted from Publix in the redesign, but mostly.  Biggest change was putting the cars on the inside and the other tenants along the sidewalks.  Way more pedestrian friendly than the suburban model.

Our little Publix, btw, earns more dollars per square foot than almost any other in their entire system; per Carl the manager.  Evidently surprised the hell out of Publix management and encouraged them to build similar stores in other urban areas.

Jax leads the way again and, again, gets little credit for it.

In fact, Publix gives no credit whatsoever on their website's history page.

It notes all the various changes and concepts across the decades, but only lists its urban models as the greenwise stores

Before I came to Jax (2003), a company I used to work for designed a lot of Publix stores and distribution facilities.  The 28k (square foot) Publix model used in Riverside isn't new or unique to Jacksonville.  It's just the first time Jax didn't roll over for the larger suburban model.  I believe we can credit RAP for being one of the players who helped get the shopping center (developed by Sembler, not Publix) shaped the way it is today. 

Also, the 28k store is one of the models they've used to fit stores on compact sites over the years.  Here are a few more that aren't Greenwise stores.  Many are the exact same store (box) that's in Riverside but those cities may have required more urban layouts "outside" of the store box.

Downtown Fort Lauderdale:




Downtown Orlando:




Downtown West Palm Beach:




Downtown Columbia, SC:




Downtown St. Petersburg:




South Beach:



Anyway, getting back on topic, it was great seeing the large crowd out today.  RAM is a great asset for the urban core and on of the things that makes Jacksonville a great place.

[Dog Walker]

Got to love what they did in Columbia, S.C.  And the South Beach Store?  No cookie cutter for sure!  Starship Publix.

Did Sembler develop those other stores too?

[thelakelander]

Sembler developed the downtown St. Petersburg store's shopping center in 2001.  The Columbia, SC Publix is housed in a renovated 19th century Confederate printing plant.  Homes Smith Developments was that project's developer.  The West Palm Beach store was a part of Palladium Company's City Place.  The South Beach and Fort Lauderdale stores are on their own sites and were probably developed by Publix themselves.

[ghalti]

 And once again, a thread that was supposed to be about something fun, opening day at RAM, has turning into a pissing match between regular posters about the evils of RAP and Wayne Wood, and who should get credit for what, and what we should all be doing or not doing.
I am a bit sick of reading threads that turn into big pissing matches between factions. I think MJ should start an entire section for just that "Pissing Matches".
Go play elsewhere and let me read about opening day at RAM. Please.

[JaxJerry]

I second that!

[edjax]

And a third.

[Jumpinjack]

We got sick of reading that trash and left to go to RAM. Beautiful day, parked our bikes, talked with Lakelander, watched the Stanton Blue Devil Marching Band, ate fattening food, bought a few items, watched dogs, hundreds of people really enjoying the market, the day. Thanks RAM, Thanks RAP for a fun time.

[Know Growth]

I didnt say it wasnt amusing.  Its like watching an old Carol Burnett beat poet skit.

  THAT'S what it was reminding me of!  Knew it was something, but couldn't quite recall.  Thanks.

All In The Family

[Know Growth]

Today's FTU article trumps this thread for the best insight on Arts Market Fourth Season Opener

[Know Growth]

And once again, a thread that was supposed to be about something fun, opening day at RAM, has turning into a pissing match between regular posters about the evils of RAP and Wayne Wood, and who should get credit for what, and what we should all be doing or not doing.
I am a bit sick of reading threads that turn into big pissing matches between factions. I think MJ should start an entire section for just that "Pissing Matches".
Go play elsewhere and let me read about opening day at RAM. Please.

Takes two or more to TANGO.

Yesterday someone mentioned MJ not what it used to be.

Truth,Art & Beauty....behind the computer screen above all is Shove.

I'm checking out.....

ONWARD

[IamAmerican]

What does that mean, "mj not what it used to be"?

[ben says]

And once again, a thread that was supposed to be about something fun, opening day at RAM, has turning into a pissing match between regular posters about the evils of RAP and Wayne Wood, and who should get credit for what, and what we should all be doing or not doing.
I am a bit sick of reading threads that turn into big pissing matches between factions. I think MJ should start an entire section for just that "Pissing Matches".
Go play elsewhere and let me read about opening day at RAM. Please.

Takes two or more to TANGO.

Yesterday someone mentioned MJ not what it used to be.

Truth,Art & Beauty....behind the computer screen above all is Shove.

I'm checking out.....

ONWARD

You sound like 'north miami'...

[thelakelander]

What does that mean, "mj not what it used to be"?

It's the same product its been since day one.  Someone may have just gotten their feathers ruffled.  It happens from time to time when people take stuff mentioned online, that they don't agree with, personally.

[Debbie Thompson]

The South Beach store...way cool.  The one in Columbia reminds me of another brick building in Riverside that should be repurposed.