Riverside Arts Market opens Fourth Season

[blizz01]

...Tomorrow.  Looks like a full slate of scheduled events - hoping for some "fresh" vendors this season too...

http://riversideartsmarket.com/

[BridgeTroll]

WooHoo!  C-ya Saturday...

[CMYKyle]

Whatever happened to the couple that sold beignets and chicory coffee? They need to come back.

[ben says]

Whatever happened to the couple that sold beignets and chicory coffee? They need to come back.

+1.

[TheCat]

[Kaiser Soze]

I hope all attendees make a point to find the RAP representative and tell them that their organization sucks.

[Dog Walker]

I hope all attendees make a point to find the RAP representative and tell them that their organization has done fantastic work over the decades of its existence including starting the Riverside Arts Market and working to preserve the fabric and character of our historic neighborhood.

[Dog Walker]

Of course they didn't do it alone. I neither said or implied as much.  They don't suck as an organization either which is what I was responding to.

Other things?  How about saving a dozen or so houses when St. Vincent's was busy devouring the neighborhood?  How about forcing the redesign of the new Publix plaza so it didn't look like every other Publix in suburbia, but actually fits in here and has become a model for urban Publixs all over the South?  How about protecting the street grid when the City wanted to give away some streets to a private company?  How about spearheading the effort to get urban agriculture started here?  How about initiating the very merchants' associations that have accomplished so much.

Wayne Wood and the organization he founded, RAP, prepared the soil in which those other things that other groups and individual accomplished could take root.  This area would be a very different place if RAP had not been in existence.

They blow it sometimes just like all organizations and each of us does.  But we would not have been voted one of the ten best neighborhoods in the US by the APA without them. 

And they don't always insist on expensive wooden windows, that's cheap shot BS.  They just don't approve of tacky white vinyl windows.  They approved my aluminum clad windows that have the appearance of the original, but un-salvageable, wooden ones.  There are even conforming vinyl windows that are approved now because the manufacturers responded the the historic appearance requirement.

RAP is not SPAR.  TGFT!

Lumping me in with the younger generation and newcomers is either flattery or a real stretch.  My family has had at least one business in Riverside since 1932 and I dropped out of the younger generation over thirty years ago.       Funny guy!

Actually I've found that a lot of the newcomers and younger generation coming into the neighborhood are the quickest to whine and gripe when they come up against the historic guidelines and the requirements for getting a COA before they can do things to their houses.

[Dog Walker]

RAP did not found the merchants associations incidentally, and any such claim is pretty ludicrous.

Btw.  Where does this claim come from that RAP forced Publix to develop a new type of footprint that they use to this day?

Ive never been able to confirm that.

it would be cool if it is true.

Didn't say they did found the merchants' association.  Said that they facilitated (encouraged, consulted).  They actually let 5 Points use their bank account for a while when the association's 501(c)3 lapsed.

My source for the Publix redesign statement was Lisa Shepphard.  RAP architectural review board went skyward rapidly when the first plans were submitted and members of that committee and HPC staff, including Lisa, redrew it.  They didn't get all of what they wanted from Publix in the redesign, but mostly.  Biggest change was putting the cars on the inside and the other tenants along the sidewalks.  Way more pedestrian friendly than the suburban model.

Our little Publix, btw, earns more dollars per square foot than almost any other in their entire system; per Carl the manager.  Evidently surprised the hell out of Publix management and encouraged them to build similar stores in other urban areas.

Jax leads the way again and, again, gets little credit for it.

[Know Growth]

(not of course, that the Publix should even be considered, according to North Miami/Know Growth.

Its a business development and therefore will eventually destroy the neighborhood.

?
I think Five Points Publix is grand,and like so many, pleased that the facility was designed and promoted in the manner in which it was.

Overlay workshop citizen participant's 'vision' for Fishweir Creek public space,park at Loop restaurant area was the result of (at the time)recent Commander development proposal viewed as excessive.No one believed such an open space would happen,but one proposed extreme can lend to another.
Note that truly problematic Herschel Animal Clinic congestion received absolutely no negative comments from Overlay participants.

Folks take a stand according to where they sit.

RAP is reflective of the Riverside Avondale area,regardless of specific issue involvement.
When the chips are down,Organization ( and of course,individuals....) become the narrative target.

It was fascinating to see Clay County citizens opposed to Beltway have to rely on organization such the Florida Wildlife Federation.The crux of FWF involvement directly related to human,economic,community interests yet often effectively defined by some as anti people,community.The 'anti' theme obviously gained some traction,did it not?


Onward-

[Charles Hunter]

(Looks at thread title to make sure I'm in the right place)
Was there just before noon, and the place had many vendors and lots of happy folk walking around shopping and buying.  A good start to RAM Year 4.

[Dog Walker]

North Miami, you will find that there is a perfectly good reason why English has rules of Grammar:

Without them, most writing is just gobbledeegook.

+1  Although it can be amusing to read it as blank verse.

[Dog Walker]

Charles, we just got back too.  Long lines at the food booths and a dense, happy crowd.  Little Stanton Band marching through the market was terrific fun.

Lakelander rode his bicycle there and was chatting up the Bike Jax folk who had an almost full bike check lot.  Councilman Love was running around as excited as a kid on Christmas morning at the turn-out.

In fact, Publix gives no credit whatsoever on their website's history page.

You expected that management or the architects would admit to anyone that some outside people had a better idea of how to design a grocery plaza than they did?  Somebody might question their big bucks.  No, they did what anybody would do; filed off the serial numbers and claimed it as their own.

[BridgeTroll]

Charles, we just got back too.  Long lines at the food booths and a dense, happy crowd.  Little Stanton Band marching through the market was terrific fun.

Lakelander rode his bicycle there and was chatting up the Bike Jax folk who had an almost full bike check lot.  Councilman Love was running around as excited as a kid on Christmas morning at the turn-out.

In fact, Publix gives no credit whatsoever on their website's history page.

You expected that management or the architects would admit to anyone that some outside people had a better idea of how to design a grocery plaza than they did?  Somebody might question their big bucks.  No, they did what anybody would do; filed off the serial numbers and claimed it as their own.

Got back an hour or so also... loaded up on veggies and bought some herbs for my garden.  Large crowd and expect it to be larger by now

[Dog Walker]

I didnt say it wasnt amusing.  Its like watching an old Carol Burnett beat poet skit.

  THAT'S what it was reminding me of!  Knew it was something, but couldn't quite recall.  Thanks.