Suburban Jacksonville: Julington Creek Plantation

[Tacachale]

^I've long felt than in a former slave state, if something has the term "Plantation" attached to it, it better have honest-to-God historical plantation buildings, carefully restored and maintained as a respectful reminder of how our current infrastructure was built under a cruel system  through much blood, oppression, and toil.

If it doesn't, you're an asshole.

[Jaxson]

I agree with the previous postings about the use of the word 'plantation' when designing subdvisions.  Aren't we a little too advanced to be yearning for the days of the 'lost cause'?  Just sayin'!

[Garden guy]

Most of the land this place is on should never have been built on...it was mostly wetlands...land trading and back room deals in Tally allowed this place to be developed...just another example of the good ole boys with wetland fucking up our state.

[cline]

I know quite a few people that live here.  The number one reason they give for liking it so much:  good schools.

[thelakelander]

I wonder what the average Julington Creek Plantation's household automobile/transportation budget is?  It appears to be your typical suburban style master development but it seems like its a good distance from clusters of commerical, office, and industrial employment.

[Jumpinjack]

I read a report done on Housing and Transportation Costs in the Washington DC area. The study, while complex in most ways, found that in general, commuting costs of homeowners living in suburbs began to exceed housing costs at a distance of about 15-17 miles.

[tufsu1]

I wonder what the average Julington Creek Plantation's household automobile/transportation budget is? 

I doubt they care much...residents out there have higher HH income than the metro area in general or the state as a whole.

[Tacachale]

By hilarious coincidence I had an unfortunate experience in Julington Creek last night that I'd like to relate. I discovered that another thing the neighborhood is "safe" from is easy access to hospitals.

We were attending a party with the friend I mentioned in an above post, who's currently taking care of his parents' house on Julington Creek. Shortly into the night I started choking, which necessitated a run to the emergency room. The route to the nearest hospital, Baptist South, was 15 miles and took over 20 minutes- with my wife hauling ass. The shortest route was 9 or 10 miles but had so many traffic lights it would have taken even longer. Either way, not a fun trip when you can't really breathe.

In contrast, my own house in San Marco is no more than 2 or 3 miles from Baptist Downtown. Even if we had to call an ambulance and wait for it to come and go back, it still would have taken half the time it did.

I've been leaning this way for years, but this experience has totally convinced me: we need to be less preoccupied with oblique concerns about "safety" and sprawling out to build excellent new schools instead of fixing existing ones, and start building communities with all working parts.

[jaxnative]

Wow, settle down boys and girls.  I never realized I was a racist, environmentally destructive, insensitive to injured people who don't know how the hell to get to the hospital quickly, asshole.  I'm going to be tossing and turning at night for weeks!!!!!
I really love this area.  I feel really safe and have just about every thing I need close by.

There ya go, let the entertainment continue.

[thelakelander]

I wonder what the average Julington Creek Plantation's household automobile/transportation budget is? 

I doubt they care much...residents out there have higher HH income than the metro area in general or the state as a whole.

I know, I was just wondering what range it possibly falls in.

[Tacachale]

Wow, settle down boys and girls.  I never realized I was a racist, environmentally destructive, insensitive to injured people who don't know how the hell to get to the hospital quickly, asshole.  I'm going to be tossing and turning at night for weeks!!!!!
I really love this area.  I feel really safe and have just about every thing I need close by.

There ya go, let the entertainment continue.

oh come now. No one said any of those things about you. It's cool you're happy where you live and appreciate the low crime rate, excellent schools, and car accessible parks. But from where I'm standing I didn't feel particularlt safe going through that neck of the woods last night.

[thelakelander]

Wow, settle down boys and girls.  I never realized I was a racist, environmentally destructive, insensitive to injured people who don't know how the hell to get to the hospital quickly, asshole.  I'm going to be tossing and turning at night for weeks!!!!!
I really love this area.  I feel really safe and have just about every thing I need close by.

There ya go, let the entertainment continue.

LOL.  Julington Creek Plantation is a great place for those who choose to live there which, by looking at all the cars driving down Race Track Road, numbers in the thousands.  Being in a diversified community, we're going to have an environment where several types of lifestyles appeal to a variety of people.  Obviously, from judging from the comments, the majority of MJ appears to be more urban oriented, so don't take anything said on these discussion boards personally.

[dougskiles]

The continued use of the word 'safe' is interesting to me.

It reminds me of when I learned to scuba dive at night.  The instructor taught us that it is more dangerous to dive at night, but only because of how we react to perceived danger.  Night time didn't bring any greater risk of shark attack, equipment malfunction, etc.   But, if we panicked at the thought of any of these, we could get in trouble very quickly.

So, let's assume that there is a very small increase in risk for a home invasion.  How does that compare to the increased risk assocated with driving because home is farther from work?

All things considered, is it really safer?  Or do we just perceive it to be safer?

[thelakelander]

This particular situation (which could be nearly any place in the region) didn't seem safe to me, which is why I snapped the shot.  It will serve as a visual example of how not to design pedestrian crossings at roadway intersections.

[Lunican]

Check out what actually kills people...


http://fcpr.fsu.edu/flcured/causes_of_death.php

Unintentional injury and cardiovascular disease can be directly attributed to our autocracy.