Illegal Immigrants Paid $11.2 Billion In Taxes While GE Paid $0

[FayeforCure]

This is for BT:

A study by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy challenges the notion that illegal immigrants come to the U.S. to freeload.  According to the New York Daily News, the study says illegal immigrants paid $11.2 billion in taxes last year.

ITEP estimates that households that are headed by undocumented immigrants (which may include members who are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants) paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes last year. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.

Higher in the story, the columnist compares that figure to taxes paid by General Electric,  which earned $14 billion last year, and  “is reported to have paid nothing, nada, zero in taxes (GE denies it).”
Here’s more from the columnist:

To no one’s surprise, taxes are still as certain for working people â€" and whatever is left of the middle class â€" as they ever were. But for, well, GE and other corporate giants, the only certainty is that many found ways to contribute as little to the country’s coffers as possible.

At the same time, Republicans in Washington are involved in a mighty struggle to protect the tax breaks of the country’s richest 2%, while happily proposing to cut the most basic social services to Americans who really need them.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/04/21/study-illegal-immigrants-paid-11-2b-in-taxes-ge-paid-0-ny-daily-news/

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy

That applies to everyone but the 1% and their mega-corporate sponsors, who keep mooching off the government with corporate welfare galore!!

[BridgeTroll]

Why is this for me?  close the loopholes... I certainly support that.  Always have.

Faye... How much tax do illegal immigrants in Holland pay?

[second_pancake]

When looking at articles like this it's important to remember that when it's being reporting "taxes paid" most often they are not taking into account the 100% refund of the taxes the lower income folks receive which makes their total tax contribution net $0.  That having been said, I agree the loopholes need to be closed, however they need to be closed across the board to ensure everyone is paying into the system. It's ridiculous that we have people paying into a system that they will not be able to receive benefit from while there are American citizens who literally pay nothing and are still entitled to receive.

[Ralph W]

Corporations paying taxes? Not on your life.

No matter how it is spinned, there is not a corporation in the world that pays a single tax. That honor is bestowed on the consumer - you and me. I thought everyone knew by now that ALL expenses to a corporation were included in the price of the goods or services.

We should be grateful that not another dollar is commandeered by the tax man as that only triggers a price increase down the line. It might be only a penny or nickle or dime per widget but it will be.

[FayeforCure]

When looking at articles like this it's important to remember that when it's being reporting "taxes paid" most often they are not taking into account the 100% refund of the taxes the lower income folks receive which makes their total tax contribution net $0.

Hmmm, I totally question your math!

Lets see......

Illegal immigrants paid $11.2 billion in taxes last year.

$1.2 billion in personal income taxes might be refundable if they were low-income........but not all of them are. I knew some northern european people who overstayed their tourist visum and worked in the US, but never got any refund because they weren't low income.

So let's say that $1 billion is refunded..........that still leaves them providing $10.2 to state and federal government revenues, when corporations are a net drain with their massive corporate wel-fare intake.

I always have to laugh at people claiming that the poor don't pay any taxes............as you can see from the above.........more than 90% of taxes paid are of the non-income tax versions like sales tax and property taxes, car registrations etc.

[jandar]

Income tax is always the burden of more than 50% of Americans. Around 50% pay no income taxes, they get refunds back every year or exemptions.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/story/2011-10-06/income-tax-nonpayment/50676912/1



Now sales tax, etc, yes, that is paid by all for all purchases. Unless you get government kickbacks or exemptions.
And Ralph has a point, increase the tax burden of a corporation, increase the cost of the item they produce which is passed along to the consumer, and ultimately the poorest feel the affects first.

Where do you think the money you spend on a company goes? Salaries, costs, profits. If costs rise the price of the item will as well.

If you don't like a company, boycott their products. There are usually a ton of alternatives for each item and even banks. Why bank at a huge bank, I'd rather deal with a credit union.

[jandar]

Income tax is always the burden of more than 50% of Americans. Around 50% pay no income taxes, they get refunds back every year.

Sorry Jandar, but this is an out and out lie.

Nope, its not Stephen, you can't seem to think that people pay zero income tax at times. The key word is INCOME TAX. Not federal taxes. Separate the two

According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington, D.C., 46% of tax filers will owe no federal income tax this year. But when you figure in payroll taxes â€" such as those for Social Security, Medicare and unemployment â€" more than 80% of tax filers pay some kind of federal tax. And that doesn't include sales taxes, state taxes, local taxes, gas taxes, etc., which catch just about everyone..

Notice, income tax, not federal taxes.

And yes, the very rich can find tax loopholes to not pay as well.

[NotNow]

Income tax is always the burden of more than 50% of Americans. Around 50% pay no income taxes, they get refunds back every year.

Sorry Jandar, but this is an out and out lie.

Nope, its not Stephen, you can't seem to think that people pay zero income tax at times. The key word is INCOME TAX. Not federal taxes. Separate the two

According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center in Washington, D.C., 46% of tax filers will owe no federal income tax this year. But when you figure in payroll taxes — such as those for Social Security, Medicare and unemployment — more than 80% of tax filers pay some kind of federal tax. And that doesn't include sales taxes, state taxes, local taxes, gas taxes, etc., which catch just about everyone..

Notice, income tax, not federal taxes.

It is still an out and out lie.

22% of the people who 'do not pay income taxes' are retirees and social security pensioners.

They have already paid all the income taxes that they were required.

Income Tax is not supposed to be an everlasting tax, Jandar.  It is a deal in which a percentage of your income goes to the government from adulthood (people below the age of 18 are tax exempt, as are students in college) until the mandatory retirement age of 65.  So roughly 45 years or so.  But it is a finite tax.  It doesnt go on forever.  Once you have retired, and cash in on your social security policy (a separate, fully paid for retirement payment that is deducted from your check) then you do not owe Income Tax anymore.

This pernicious lie seems to pretend that retirees have to pay more than their duty-----22% of Americans that took the burden of paying a 45 year long tax on their earnings.

The other assumption is that the 15% of the population that is composed of children, for gods sake, will never pay income taxes when they get old enough to take up the income tax duty.

Do you suppose that the 15% of the population that is too young to work, and therefore do not pay income tax, will never have to pay income taxes for the rest of their lives?

This is absurd psycho talk, and it is a lie.

100% - 50% of the population you claim are paying income taxes, - 22% of the people who have already completed their income tax payment, - 15% of the people who have not yet entered into an income tax payment phase but will within the next 18 years (at most) = 13% of the people who 'should' be paying income tax, but arent.

Unemployment at present is ranging between 9 and 19 percent, depending on where you are in the country.

Please stop disseminating this lie.

StephenDare!, what is your source for these claims?

[NotNow]

What thread would that be?

[BridgeTroll]

No income tax after 65??  Wa-freeking-Hoo!!  This is awesome news!  I will be passing this on to my father!!

[Captain Zissou]

ITEP estimates that households that are headed by undocumented immigrants (which may include members who are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants) paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes last year. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.

You do realize that this negates the claim made in the title, right.....?  Well, you probably didn't, but now you do.  Just lookin' out for you Faye.

[BridgeTroll]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/the-truth-about-ges-tax-bill/2011/04/05/AFZm0L9C_story.html

[FayeforCure]

ITEP estimates that households that are headed by undocumented immigrants (which may include members who are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants) paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes last year. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.

You do realize that this negates the claim made in the title, right.....?  Well, you probably didn't, but now you do.  Just lookin' out for you Faye.

Umm, yeah, households commonly are headed by undocumented immigrants, but they have children born in the US, who are thus "documented immigrants" that are part of the household but too young to provide income.

[BridgeTroll]

Your social security benefit may not be taxable... many other retirement income are most certainly taxable.

http://www.youtube.com/v/YyzPum9ySuA

[Captain Zissou]

ITEP estimates that households that are headed by undocumented immigrants (which may include members who are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants) paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes last year. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.

You do realize that this negates the claim made in the title, right.....?  Well, you probably didn't, but now you do.  Just lookin' out for you Faye.

Umm, yeah, households commonly are headed by undocumented immigrants, but they have children born in the US, who are thus "documented immigrants" that are part of the household but too young to provide income.

This just confuses your point even further and shows that you have even less of an understanding of what you read.  Also, way to use "Ummm Yeah" as a response.  How's middle school going this year??  That algebra sure can be tough.