San Marco Boulevard: Before & After

Started by Metro Jacksonville, June 14, 2011, 05:42:02 AM

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grimss

#30
June 15, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
I cannot believe how long this project has taken . . . and it's still not done. The impact on the surrounding businesses has been brutal. I'm sort'a excited about the end product, but just having driven through there yesterday, I still don't "feel" a great new streetscape.

iMarvin

#31
June 15, 2011, 10:03:07 PM
Quote from: grimss on June 15, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
I cannot believe how long this project has taken . . . and it's still not done. The impact on the surrounding businesses has been brutal. I'm sort'a excited about the end product, but just having driven through there yesterday, I still don't "feel" a great new streetscape.

I agree. I'm not really seeing the new look.

duvaldude08

#32
June 15, 2011, 10:08:55 PM
Wow if you not seeing the new look your are definitely not looking at the photos.
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Keith-N-Jax

#33
June 15, 2011, 10:09:25 PM
Thats what I was thinking.

grimss

#34
June 15, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
If you drive through the area, you'll realize that the Palm "Allee" is located in what's really the non-pedestrian part of this strip (off-ramp from the bridge and JOI's building). The trees certainly provide a nice entrance to the commercial area, but the commercial area itself still feels kind of barren. There are some expanded sidewalk areas outside of the restaurants, and that's very cool, but otherwise my impression was, "All this delay (AND redirecting of traffic, such a pain) for what?" I hope time will prove me wrong--the merchants certainly deserve the best the city can offer.

thelakelander

#35
June 16, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

Tacachale

#36
June 16, 2011, 08:52:02 AM
Quote from: thelakelander on June 16, 2011, 06:39:45 AM
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2011-06-16/story/san-marco-boulevard-businesses-struggle-amid-road-construction

I saw that. Hopefully once its complete the businesses the sidewalk improvements will result in more foot traffic past these businesses. It's good to see that at lease some of the landlords understand the situation and are cutting businesses breaks on rent.
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

duvaldude08

#37
June 16, 2011, 09:59:04 AM
Quote from: grimss on June 15, 2011, 10:14:28 PM
If you drive through the area, you'll realize that the Palm "Allee" is located in what's really the non-pedestrian part of this strip (off-ramp from the bridge and JOI's building). The trees certainly provide a nice entrance to the commercial area, but the commercial area itself still feels kind of barren. There are some expanded sidewalk areas outside of the restaurants, and that's very cool, but otherwise my impression was, "All this delay (AND redirecting of traffic, such a pain) for what?" I hope time will prove me wrong--the merchants certainly deserve the best the city can offer.


Throughout a good bit of the construction I was riding the Bus. (thank God thats over LOL) And trust me, they worked worked day in and day out. I think it was more than just a streetscape because they were doing ALOT of digging. As citizens we are quick to judge from the outside looking in. Let me pose this question. What should have we done differently in regard to this project? Living in Jacksonville my whole life, 95% of time we are going to find SOMETHING wrong with EVERYTHING the city does. However, we never offer a better solution.
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fsujax

#38
June 16, 2011, 10:01:28 AM
you are correct. this is more than just a simple streetscape project. If am not mistaken, I believe ther was a lot of utility work.

Tacachale

#39
June 16, 2011, 10:28:30 AM
Yes, there is a ton of utility and infrastructure work going into this, and in some ways it's more pressing than the road improvement itself. They're adding totally new water and sewer lines, and burying the electric lines to prevent them from getting knocked out by storms. They're also installing new storm drains, which will help reduce the flooding that occurs in heavy rains.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-12-18/story/san_marco_merchants_brace_for_road_reconstruction

http://jacksonville.com/community/southside/2011-02-24/story/southside-sun-notebook-san-marco-streetscape-contract-awarded
Do you believe that when the blue jay or another bird sings and the body is trembling, that is a signal that people are coming or something important is about to happen?

cline

#40
June 16, 2011, 01:31:38 PM
It is good to see that they didn't put in those ridiculously large planters (the ones that obstruct the sidewalk) around the trees like they did in Avondale. 

TheProfessor

#41
June 17, 2011, 06:03:10 PM
I prefer the Washington and Queen Palms over the Sable Palms.

thelakelander

#42
June 19, 2011, 05:40:59 PM
I ended up trying Vino's yesterday evening.  Both Vino's and Bistro Aix have added sidewalk seating.  This stretch should have a real nice vibe when complete and additional restaurants and businesses take advantage of the wider sidewalks.

"A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." - Muhammad Ali

fsujax

#43
June 20, 2011, 09:18:12 AM
nice picture Lake, it looks great. San Marco will have two great corridors leading from the Southbank to the heart of the district.

Bativac

#44
June 20, 2011, 10:09:41 AM
It's looking good over there, but as someone alluded to earlier - are they fixing the flooding problems? The cosmetic stuff is great, but the flooding over there was terrible anytime there was a significant amount of rain. I know one business that closed due to water damage from flooding caused by rain water. Hopefully they spent money on that part of it along with everything else.
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