Mike Hogan = Rick Scott | Read the thread...

Started by Jimmy, April 13, 2011, 05:48:36 PM

Jimmy

I've been saying this for a looooooong time.  Mike Hogan with his tea party backers is the second coming of Rick Scott.  Of course, certain Hogan proponents have said this is ridiculous.

Guess what's happening Friday afternoon at Hogan Campaign HQ?  Hold on to your hats.

A "Special Campaign Get-Together with Gov. Rick Scott."

Isn't that... special?

CityLife

Support of Toney Sleiman and other developers-Check
Major Campaign Platform is cutting spending and "government waste"-Check
Tight with the Tea Party-Check

Beyond that I don't have a freaking clue what Mike Hogan stands for, thus its hard for me to really know whether or not he is the next Rick Scott.

Its definitely any interesting parallel for Brown and his supporters to use. Any good Scott fearing Jacksonvillian should be very afraid of a Scott clone.

Jimmy

I find it a little ironic that this news comes out today, all things considered (after our discussions last night in the other threads).

FayeforCure

Quote from: CityLife on April 13, 2011, 06:16:39 PM
Support of Toney Sleiman and other developers-Check
Major Campaign Platform is cutting spending and "government waste"-Check
Tight with the Tea Party-Check

Beyond that I don't have a freaking clue what Mike Hogan stands for, thus its hard for me to really know whether or not he is the next Rick Scott.

Its definitely any interesting parallel for Brown and his supporters to use. Any good Scott fearing Jacksonvillian should be very afraid of a Scott clone.

This is so true.

Too bad there is one Dem causing a ruckus on MJ, there is no way any other Dem with a brain would support a Rick Scott clone!!!!!
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Jimmy

If it becomes obvious - and I think it will - that Mike Hogan is more of the Rick Scott mold of politicians (or vice-versa; chicken-egg), then the contrast will be sufficient that most people who are against Scott's agenda will find themselves at odds with Hogan's and voting for Brown.  Or staying home.  But hopefully voting for Brown.

FayeforCure

Quote from: Jimmy on April 13, 2011, 07:53:17 PM
If it becomes obvious - and I think it will - that Mike Hogan is more of the Rick Scott mold of politicians (or vice-versa; chicken-egg), then the contrast will be sufficient that most people who are against Scott's agenda will find themselves at odds with Hogan's and voting for Brown.  Or staying home.  But hopefully voting for Brown.

Yeah, I already showed that the 1 % difference favoring McCain in Duval county, only represents 1,500 votes in a mayoral election.

There is enough resentment for Rick Scott to make up for a 1,500 vote difference!!

And no way Mike Hogan will distance himself from the Tea Partier types  ;D
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Diane Melendez

#6
It could also be that a thinking and informed Democrat would know that a Scott recall is highly unlikely even if warranted.  So where does that put the next mayor and Jacksonville when it comes to Jacksonville having a seat at the political table?  Many Republicans are having buyers remorse over Scott, but as you are finding out, getting him out of office will be harder than it was getting him in and if possible would take a very, very long time.  So which is the smarter approach?  Pretend that he can be taken out of office before his term is over and alienate him to Jacksonville and it's needs, or suck it up and make sure Jacksonville does not remain the unrecognized stepchild?  A confrontational approach from a potential mayor is suicide when it comes to keeping Jacksonville the "positive" focus it needs to be in Tally.  

Jimmy

Apparently Governor Scott will be in town on Friday in order to take part in the Tea Party anti-tax rally at the Landing. 

So this begs the question... is Mike Hogan scheduled to appear at the Tea Party rally?  Will he be dumping good Lipton into the Saint Johns, our American Heritage River, on Friday?  Considering this group endorsed Hogan, I guess we all know the answer to that.

FayeforCure

Quote from: Diane Melendez on April 13, 2011, 08:18:06 PM
It could also be that a thinking and informed Democrat would know that a Scott recall is highly unlikely even if warranted.  So where does that put the next mayor and Jacksonville when it comes to Jacksonville having a seat at the political table?  Many Republicans are having buyers remorse over Scott, but as you are finding out, getting him out of office will be harder than it was getting him in and if possible would take a very, very long time.  So which is the smarter approach?  Pretend that he can be taken out of office before his term is over and alienate him to Jacksonville and it's needs, or suck it up and make sure Jacksonville does not remain the unrecognized stepchild?  A confrontational approach from a potential mayor is suicide when it comes to keeping Jacksonville the "positive" focus it needs to be in Tally.  

Yeah, yeah, Diane, roll over and play dead.

No worse, join the extreme Tea Partier crowd.

I am so glad I haven't come across one of those types of Dems among the 150,000 voters that voted for me in 2008.

As I've said before..........if a Dem wants to support a moderate Republican such as Charlie Crist............well, that kinda makes sense sometimes.

But to join forces with an extreme right-wing Republican as a Dem is absolutely ludicrous.

Sorry girl!
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.
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Diane Melendez

Faye, I did not say roll over, not even close.  I asked a simple and straightforward question about what direction is the better strategy for Jacksonville to have a seat at the money/political table in Tally?
Rational, calculated thought trumps emotional thinking in politics at this level every time.  I did not say not to take action as a voter regarding Scott or anything else you don't like. I am speaking about the best strategy for Jacksonville and a potential mayor.  Alienation on behalf of our city is a completely unwise strategy for Jacksonville. 

Jimmy

Diane, using that logic, you have been a supporter of John Peyton all of these years.  With the Republican lockdown of Tallahassee all through his terms, it would only be logical to support Mayor Peyton since he's in with the local REC and the Republicans in Tallahassee.  Right?

No, I didn't think so.

Diane Melendez

Not at all Jimmy.  You are not hearing or understanding what I am saying and I don't mean that as an insult. We are thinking on two completely different wave lengths is all. It's okay.

Jimmy

Believe me, I am not insulted.  I'm only trying to understand.

mfc

This race is close and not over like hogans camp would have you believe. Hang tight brown supporters. Anything worth having is worth fighting for.

tufsu1

Diane...I'm sure you think that being with Hogan will allow you to influence his policies/views...you might want to ask Paula Dockery how that worked out with Rick Scott and high speed rail!