Black Sheep Restaurant Group Planning New Restaurant for 5 Points

Started by urbanjacksonville, August 10, 2010, 11:35:25 AM

TheProfessor

The UNF student union has modern architectural touches.  It is a nice addition to campus. Just Google Image it.  Here is a pic on wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:UNF_student_union_at_night.JPG


trigger

OK, I remember it now. Yes, some nice touches. Unfortunately, it's stuck in the middle of a truly pedestrian example of campus master planning.
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brainstormer

First of all, I am a huge supporter of Insetta's work and believe he sets a high standard for dining in Jacksonville.  Adding to 5 points will be positive for the area and we shouldn't worry about the parking.  A couple of thoughts.  

I like how the building facade below is broken up.  I realize the Oak street lot is not big, but I think adding some character, like a balcony, to the design would help it blend into the neighborhood.



This picture showcases an enclosed glass restaurant on top of the building.  Personally because of our rain and hot hot sun here, what if the rooftop had an actual top to it, but left the walls open-air.  This way diners would be protected from the elements but still able to enjoy the fresh air and breeze.  Again this would add a lot of character and a new dimension to the building.  The current design looks bland to me.

stjr

Modern Architecture..... Bring it on!  Is Jax ready for this?  ;D












Hey!  Whatever happened to just plain ol' COMMON SENSE!!

acme54321

Now that is the kind of modern I think would look great in five points!  Something funky for a funky area :o

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dlupercio

http://www.ladowntownnews.com/articles/2010/08/06/news/doc4c58a445ba9c5257016709.txt

Just to give people a heads up on what other downtowns are working on. This is in Downtown Los Angeles...my hometown :( Which even with a shitty economy, they still have dreams out there. and actually work to get these dreams to live.

But here's a bite of where today's architecture needs to go.


Dog Walker

There is already a modern building in the 5 Points area built in about 1979.  It's the medical office right behind the 5 Points theater on Margaret Street.  Even has a big hole in the side.
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cline

Wasn't the building that was torn down so that 1661 could be built also an example of modern architecture?

fieldafm

It was a Taylor Hardwick designed medical office building.  It was pretty fugly, in disrepair and had a roof design that didn't quite act very functional.

cline

I was never a big fan of that building, but I think there were quite a few people who were.

Allan D

Quote from: Dapperdan on August 11, 2010, 09:47:35 AM
Allan,
What are the plans for the rooftop? Will it be part of the restaurant or its own separate bar space? Also, how will that affect possible residential units directly below it? I like the idea of the rooftop bar/club. I think it will add to the area in a  big way.
Dapper - Short answer - they will operate as one restaurant and that's specified in the rezoning application.  The rooftop restaurant seating and bar will operate and close at the same time as the restaurant below - weather permitting.  The best reference is the lounge at Orsay as it will differ in design from the main dining room with a more casual feel and available for dining, cocktailing, and gathering.  We just won't have a roof.

We plan to have offices on the 3rd floor that would be vacant in the evening, the bulk of the rooftop's operating hours.  

Non-RedNeck Westsider

Quote from: fieldafm on August 11, 2010, 02:01:37 PM
It was a Taylor Hardwick designed medical office building.  It was pretty fugly, in disrepair and had a roof design that didn't quite act very functional.

The fact that 'most' architects don't take functionality into much account has provided me with a solid career.  I didn't go to school for architecture, engineering or interior/exterior design, but my job is taking the design of others and making it work.  

Personally, I like the design of the new building, but it's incorporating the functionallity into it that's a pain in the ass.
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Dog Walker

That's a real small footprint within which to provide an elevator and handicapped restrooms on every level too.

Anybody know who the architect is?
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