With the 10th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft...

[avonjax]

I also think the Shack/Jack Attack killed the possibility of drafting another Gator in the 1st round. Just say Reggie Nelson and Derrick Harvey. Most critics forget that before those two we also had Fred Taylor who was great. Everyone needs to remember that every player chosen last night has the potential to be a complete bust. And history proves most are.

[Wacca Pilatka]

I also think the Shack/Jack Attack killed the possibility of drafting another Gator in the 1st round. Just say Reggie Nelson and Derrick Harvey. Most critics forget that before those two we also had Fred Taylor who was great. Everyone needs to remember that every player chosen last night has the potential to be a complete bust. And history proves most are.

I don't think so.  I think Haden was on the Jaguars' radar if Cleveland had taken Wilson instead.  Doubtful that Gene would make judgments based on whether players from that school failed for the Jaguars before.

[reednavy]

And reed... a first round pick is not going to get cut after training camp.  Are you insane?  If someone cuts a first round pick after training camp in the next 5 years for poor play, I'll buy you a yacht.  Not cutting him b/c he dies, or gets his leg amputated, etc..  but just for "poor play".  I would venture to guess it hasn't happened in 50 years, if that.

Are you 100% sure? Last time I checked, nobody is guaranteed making it through training camp and while it is an extremely remote idea, you never know because there is always that chance.

Nobody is guaranteed a spot until summer mini camp is over, that is what I'm trying to get at more than anything, you were obviously reading into it too much.

I'd like to know how I'm sounding "authoritative" when I'm stating facts and you have to look at every possibility. Nobody gets a free pass in my books, never have, and never will.

[hanjin1]

And reed... a first round pick is not going to get cut after training camp.  Are you insane?  If someone cuts a first round pick after training camp in the next 5 years for poor play, I'll buy you a yacht.  Not cutting him b/c he dies, or gets his leg amputated, etc..  but just for "poor play".  I would venture to guess it hasn't happened in 50 years, if that.

Are you 100% sure? Last time I checked, nobody is guaranteed making it through training camp and while it is an extremely remote idea, you never know because there is always that chance.

Nobody is guaranteed a spot until summer mini camp is over, that is what I'm trying to get at more than anything, you were obviously reading into it too much.

I'd like to know how I'm sounding "authoritative" when I'm stating facts and you have to look at every possibility. Nobody gets a free pass in my books, never have, and never will.

yea he won't get cut because you would be giving him a huge signing bonus to play here and there is no way a team is going to throw money away without seeing what he can do on the field first. i mean look at harvey, his bum arse is still here

[avonjax]

Sorry Wacca. What I meant was from the fans perspective not the teams. I think they truly try to make the best decision possible no matter where the player is from.

[Shwaz]

Would be funny if he torches Jax in the opener, well I guess it wouldnt be funny.

Jags have never won the opener at home I think sooooooo good chance

That wasnt very christan

The Jaguars will open the regular season at home for the first time since 2007 and the ninth time in club history. The Jaguars own a 9-6 mark (.600 winning percentage) in opening day games.

[Wacca Pilatka]

And reed... a first round pick is not going to get cut after training camp.  Are you insane?  If someone cuts a first round pick after training camp in the next 5 years for poor play, I'll buy you a yacht.  Not cutting him b/c he dies, or gets his leg amputated, etc..  but just for "poor play".  I would venture to guess it hasn't happened in 50 years, if that.

Are you 100% sure? Last time I checked, nobody is guaranteed making it through training camp and while it is an extremely remote idea, you never know because there is always that chance.

Nobody is guaranteed a spot until summer mini camp is over, that is what I'm trying to get at more than anything, you were obviously reading into it too much.

I'd like to know how I'm sounding "authoritative" when I'm stating facts and you have to look at every possibility. Nobody gets a free pass in my books, never have, and never will.

yea he won't get cut because you would be giving him a huge signing bonus to play here and there is no way a team is going to throw money away without seeing what he can do on the field first. i mean look at harvey, his bum arse is still here

It has happened...I was a Broncos fan prior to the Jaguars' coming along, and in 1988 Denver took Ted Gregory in the first round.  Gregory ended up not making the roster, not because of injury or some other freak incident but because they absolutely misjudged his ability.  And they had a desperate need at that position (DT) too.  I think Gregory played one year as a reserve for New Orleans.  Of course, rookie salaries were not yet where they are now.

Incidentally, Harvey may not be much of a pass rusher or in any way worth a trade up to #8, but he's not a total stiff either.

[Wacca Pilatka]

Where did this "Jaguars have never won a home opener" thing come from?  Seattle in 2005, Dallas in 2006, Pittsburgh in 1996 off the top of my head.

[Tripoli1711]

I never thought he would be taken so soon.

Tim Tebow is an NFL First Round Pick!

I'll be eating some crow, fed to me by some hardcore Gator fans in the morning.

First round pick doesn't mean shit.

Seriously, no guarantee he'll make the cut after training camp. Just because you're drafted just means the team has interest in you and ain't going to signed you right away, unless your Sam Bradford going to the trainwreck Rams.

Still though, Denver, I mean they really weren't in that much need of a QB, they got Orton and just got Brady Quinn.

I took this as sounding rather authoritative.

First round picks mean shit, man.  They mean a lot.  They make or break teams.  They get coaches and GMs fired or extended.  If a team drafts someone in the first round, they are interested in that player.  You are correct that "anything can happen", but Godzilla might attack my office building today.  Anything can happen.  It's about as likely as a top-25 1st round pick that a team just paid millions and millions of dollars in guaranteed money getting cut after training camp.

[Tripoli1711]

And 1999.  We only lost 2x that year, both to Tennessee, and I know they didn't open at home w/ Tennessee that season.

[Captain Zissou]

The best thing to have happened to this town in the last 2 decades and this city will waste it, just as they have the waterfront downtown and any other myriad of oppurtunities.  I dont think TT would have solved everything, but something had to change about the Jags and they let it slip right through their fingers.

Am I the only one who was angered by this?  I guess Lake and Sdare don't get involved in football threads.  This just reeks of defeatist language to me.  What are you doing to change this St Auggie? I'm guessing nothing, but prove me wrong.

[blizz01]

Ah, the irony.  Broncos fans are livid.

[Wacca Pilatka]

And 1999.  We only lost 2x that year, both to Tennessee, and I know they didn't open at home w/ Tennessee that season.

Yep, beat San Francisco 41-3 at home in the opener.

[hanjin1]

damn, tim tebow would have turned downtown around by himself.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, thank god we did not draft him

[Captain Zissou]

damn, tim tebow would have turned downtown around by himself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  He would have probably done that the day after he developed all of Cecil field, and the day before he brought a cruise ship terminal and a nuclear carrier to Mayport.