With the 10th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft...

Started by Traveller, April 22, 2010, 02:39:05 PM

...the Jacksonville Jaguars select:

Jimmy Clausen
2 (5.4%)
Brandon Graham
0 (0%)
Joe Haden
1 (2.7%)
Rolando McClain
3 (8.1%)
C.J. Spiller
14 (37.8%)
Tim Tebow
7 (18.9%)
Earl Thomas
2 (5.4%)
Other
8 (21.6%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Voting closed: April 23, 2010, 02:39:05 PM

JeffreyS

Clearly Gene believes in line of scrimmage as a point of emphasis. IMO the order of importance in the NFL is QB, D line, O line then other skill positions.
Lenny Smash

Tripoli1711

#151
Gene Smith has said over and over again that their philosophy on draft day is to take the best available player regardless of his position.  They grade all of the players prior to the draft.  Players who play a more premium position, such as quarterback, or a position of team need, such as safety, are going to end up having that factored into how the team grades them.  Once the grading process is complete if Gene Smith sticks by his word, the Jaguars selection is quite easy, they look at who the highest rated guy they have left on their draft board is and take him.  They have said in the past that if this results in taking 4 quarterbacks in one draft, they may end up doing that... it's just the nature of using a best available player philosophy.  

The supposed benefits of this plan is that you are always getting the best talent you can, and too much talent at one position is a nice problem to have, whereas if you draft for "need" you may select a player who really isn't that great just because you supposedly need that position.  (See 2003-2008 Jaguars Wide Receiver draft choices, and the 2008 Harvey and Groves selections).

Back when there was no roster size limits, Bear Bryant used to recruit kids to positions where he was already totally stocked.  He had no intention of ever playing the kid much, but he just didn't want that player to end up going to Tennessee or Ole Miss and becoming an opponent.  The BAP philosophy works the same way.. yeah, we may already have plenty of quarterbacks, but if we have the ability to take a franchise-type quarterback you take him so someone else doesn't have the chance.

Everybody griped and moaned last year when we couldn't pressure the quarterback or stop the run.  Now we draft two guys the team believes will greatly improve that, and everyone gripes and moans..

JeffreyS

I am not griping. I hope they are using best player available as their system if that is the case we are lucky as D Line is also our position(before the draft) of the biggest need.  I am happy with the players so far.  We may have been able to trade back and get the same guys but I am not going to fuss about that.
Lenny Smash

Traveller

#153
The Jags just traded their 4th round pick to the Raiders.  Anyone know what they received in exchange?

Edit: Looks like it was a 5th round selection, plus Raider linebacker Kirk Morrison.  He was expendable after the Raiders drafted McClain in the first round.  I suppose that addresses the Jags' need at MLB.

http://www.raiders.com/team/roster/Kirk-Morrison/f5c046f4-ff60-4844-9292-e3054c74bc0b

JeffreyS

Kiper gives the Jags a D and the Broncos a C-.
Lenny Smash

JagFan07

Grades don't mean anything this early. You can't tell until the players play. As an example here is Kiper's report from last years draft:

Jacksonville Jaguars: GRADE: C+
I understand the Jaguars felt that offensive line was a need, but I felt picking Eben Britton that early in the second round was a reach, but not nearly as big of a reach as cornerback Derek Cox in the third round. The selections of Mike Thomas and Jarrett Dillard in the fourth and fifth rounds were good ones and I really like the seventh-round selections of Rashad Jennings and Tiquan Underwood. Honestly, the late-round selections are what saved the Jaguars' grade.

http://www.faniq.com/article/Mel-Kiper-Jr-2009-NFL-Draft-Team-Grades-1561200
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Keith-N-Jax

They actually pay these people to come up with this bs.

tufsu1

Quote from: JeffreyS on April 25, 2010, 02:09:21 PM
Kiper gives the Jags a D and the Broncos a C-.

that's ok...I give Kiper an F...the guy is an idiot

JeffreyS

Oh I am not concerned with the grade. Jagfan07 makes a great point of how bad Kiper's jag grade was last year.
Lenny Smash

jandar

How about 2008.
Kiper gave the Jaguars a B grade.

Who is left on the team from that Draft?
Derrick Harvey, everyone else plays on another team.


Wacca Pilatka

Kiper also approaches everything from a blind need-based philosophy and frequently contradicts himself.  E.g., when we took Alualu, in one breath he said we were reaching based on need, and in the next asked why we didn't take Graham, Thomas, or Pierre-Paul from one of our positions of need rather than taking another DT.
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