With the 10th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft...

Started by Traveller, April 22, 2010, 02:39:05 PM

...the Jacksonville Jaguars select:

Jimmy Clausen
2 (5.4%)
Brandon Graham
0 (0%)
Joe Haden
1 (2.7%)
Rolando McClain
3 (8.1%)
C.J. Spiller
14 (37.8%)
Tim Tebow
7 (18.9%)
Earl Thomas
2 (5.4%)
Other
8 (21.6%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Voting closed: April 23, 2010, 02:39:05 PM

Traveller

Which player do you think the Jaguars will select in the first round tonight?

fsujax


Captain Zissou

My choice (Joe Haden) is purely wishful thinking. 

hanjin1

the jacksonville jaguars select..... the whole florida gators roster, including urban meyer!

there is a trade, the jacksonville jaguars have traded their whole team to los angeles  for 2 sticks of gum and david hasselhoff.

but to be serious i hope they trade the pick for more picks, but if they don't i would be happy with spiller or clausen

Tripoli1711

I am totally torn between Spiller (my vote) and trading back with the Eagles to 24 (which has been rumored) and picking Tebow.  In January I was totally an "eff Tebow, he will stink at the next level, the Jaguars would be idiots to waste a pick on him" guy.

But they've worn me down.  John Gruden says he's 200 pounds of concrete cyanide.  All these people are "totally sold on him" and his throwing motion did seem to dramatically improve in a short period.  Draft him, let David play a couple more years and hand it over...

But Spiller is Chris Johnson 2 and him and MJD would be such a threat... so I am quite torn on what I want to see.

McClain would be fine with me too.

Shwaz

#5
Quote from: Tripoli1711 on April 22, 2010, 02:48:19 PM
I am totally torn between Spiller (my vote) and trading back with the Eagles to 24 (which has been rumored) and picking Tebow.  In January I was totally an "eff Tebow, he will stink at the next level, the Jaguars would be idiots to waste a pick on him" guy.

But they've worn me down.  John Gruden says he's 200 pounds of concrete cyanide.  All these people are "totally sold on him" and his throwing motion did seem to dramatically improve in a short period.  Draft him, let David play a couple more years and hand it over...

But Spiller is Chris Johnson 2 and him and MJD would be such a threat... so I am quite torn on what I want to see.

McClain would be fine with me too.

:D I couldn't agree more. I was just at lunch and while eating caught a espn piece on Tebow. He's done an amazing job marketing himself during the last few months. Watching tape of his new throwing motion with his words of determination laced over top has me just about sold.

I would like to have Spiller / McLain / Baluga / a trade for more picks but I'll most liekyl be happy with anything Gene Smith does. He's my hero.
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reednavy

We can't afforrd to draft someone jsut to sit on their ass and watch. I don't know how many times people have to say that, some organizations have the money to waste like that, we really don't.

I voted for Spiller because I honestly think he can be put on the field as a starter this season and make an incredible impression on the team.

Being totally honest though, only idiots would buy a ticket to see Tebow sitting on the sideline. I don't like seeing walking money just sitting there, I want to see action. Has tIm improved, I think so, but to be able to start right away, or at least after a few games, I don't think so.
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Shwaz

Quote from: reednavy on April 22, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
We can't afforrd to draft someone jsut to sit on their ass and watch. I don't know how many times people have to say that, some organizations have the money to waste like that, we really don't.

I voted for Spiller because I honestly think he can be put on the field as a starter this season and make an incredible impression on the team.

Being totally honest though, only idiots would buy a ticket to see Tebow sitting on the sideline. I don't like seeing walking money just sitting there, I want to see action. Has tIm improved, I think so, but to be able to start right away, or at least after a few games, I don't think so.

A lot of QB's drafted don't play immediately. It's arguably the most difficult position to get used to the speed of the pro game... unfortunately the Tebow fans in Jax wouldn't understand that.
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Tripoli1711

Yeah.. a lot of times quarterbacks have to sit on their ass and watch learn.

A quarterback getting drafted and making an immediate positive impact doesn't happen very often.  They often make immediate negative impacts when thrown right on the field... I would have no problem drafting a QB to develop even if he was the Number 1 overall pick, so long as he developed into an awesome quarterback.  2 years is nothing to wait so long as you get a franchise quarterback for 10 years once he starts playing.

reednavy

We can use our first round pick more wisely than using it on Tebow. If he is there in the 2nd or 3rd, then maybe, but the 1st pick should always be a position you need to fill, not one to just get a few hundred more tickets sold. If the Jags do use the 1st pick on Tebow, in my eyes, they're honestly selling out annd trying to attract the common person that knows little to nothing about the mechanics of NFL football.
Jacksonville: We're not vertically challenged, just horizontally gifted!

hanjin1

Quote from: Shwaz on April 22, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: reednavy on April 22, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
We can't afforrd to draft someone jsut to sit on their ass and watch. I don't know how many times people have to say that, some organizations have the money to waste like that, we really don't.

I voted for Spiller because I honestly think he can be put on the field as a starter this season and make an incredible impression on the team.

Being totally honest though, only idiots would buy a ticket to see Tebow sitting on the sideline. I don't like seeing walking money just sitting there, I want to see action. Has tIm improved, I think so, but to be able to start right away, or at least after a few games, I don't think so.

A lot of QB's drafted don't play immediately. It's arguably the most difficult position to get used to the speed of the pro game... unfortunately the Tebow fans in Jax wouldn't understand that.

this is normally true if you were drafted low, but a top 10 qb is expected to start right away, even if they don't produce amazing stats. jags can't do that with tebow, but if he comes at a lower pick, i would be ok with it.

mrmakersmark

Aaron Rodgers is an example of a good QB drafted in the mid-first round and sat for 3 years before Favre finally left.  I think that definitely helped him develop.  Maybe Byron should have sat for a year or 2 before starting.  Oh, that was when Shack Harris was running things...ugh.
I agree with most, Trust in GM Gene.

Shwaz

#12
Quote from: hanjin1 on April 22, 2010, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: Shwaz on April 22, 2010, 02:57:15 PM
Quote from: reednavy on April 22, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
We can't afforrd to draft someone jsut to sit on their ass and watch. I don't know how many times people have to say that, some organizations have the money to waste like that, we really don't.

I voted for Spiller because I honestly think he can be put on the field as a starter this season and make an incredible impression on the team.

Being totally honest though, only idiots would buy a ticket to see Tebow sitting on the sideline. I don't like seeing walking money just sitting there, I want to see action. Has tIm improved, I think so, but to be able to start right away, or at least after a few games, I don't think so.

A lot of QB's drafted don't play immediately. It's arguably the most difficult position to get used to the speed of the pro game... unfortunately the Tebow fans in Jax wouldn't understand that.

this is normally true if you were drafted low, but a top 10 qb is expected to start right away, even if they don't produce amazing stats. jags can't do that with tebow, but if he comes at a lower pick, i would be ok with it.

I wasn't suggesting they take Tebow with the 10th pick.
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Wacca Pilatka

I'm hoping for a trade down.  With more picks there is a golden opportunity to restock and reload in what looks to be a deep draft.  If we are able to swing that, I'm hopeful that a Kyle Wilson or Rolando McClain might be available to us, if one of the people mentioned upthread doesn't drop that far.

I genuinely don't believe Tebow has much of a chance of becoming a quality NFL starter and hate the idea of drafting him for the sake of drafting him if Gene Smith doesn't genuinely believe he's going to become a quality starter.  Drafting him, then discarding or not using him because he doesn't pan out, could be a much worse fate than bypassing him.  It reminds me of the situation when the then-ABA Indiana Pacers drafted Rick Mount, a statewide high school and college hero.  When Mount didn't produce at the professional level, it spawned an ugly reaction against the team, then the player once the fan base finally figured out the team wasn't at fault for his shortcomings in the pros.  I'd hate to think of Tebow's being subject to that vitriol if he doesn't pan out in the NFL, but more consequentially, the initial backlash against the Jaguars in such a scenario could be severely detrimental to their Jacksonville future.
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Tripoli1711

I don't know about picking him at 10.  If we can move back to the mid 20s and get a 2nd round pick and maybe another 4... then I say go ahead.  I say so because I do think he will end up being at least a decent player.  I don't know why I do, but I do think that.  If I thought he was going to stink then I would never want to pick him even with a 7th round pick, because IF we pick him, you can rest assured he will be the starting QB.  Picking him and then never letting him play would be much worse than not picking him at all.