Idea for Welfare, Unemployment & Child Support

[Sportmotor]

Biweekly drug testing.
You fail, you are banned in your lifetime from receiving either.

Also increase the min you can receive. As people will fail leaving the difference enough to increase.



any takers?

[whitey]

Add in bans for lotteries, casinos, etc like they have in Singapore

[Sportmotor]

Na just breaking the law will be fine.
I don't think you can get a job if you have to take a piss test and they find drugs in your system. Much less further yourself past living off Tax Payer money in anything legal...short of starting a business yourself.

[CS Foltz]

I buy it!

[Charles Hunter]

... and for taking any tax deductions, including homestead ... after all, those are subsidies paid by people who don't have kids (child exemption), mortgages, or own a home.

Or is it only OK when it can only effect "those people"?

[Sportmotor]

I dont think my topic was about that Charles ^^

[Miss Fixit]

Legally, child support is provided for the benefit of the child (yes, I know, sometimes the child doesn't benefit as much as it should).  Therefore, cutting off child support because a parent failed a drug test would never fly.

[BridgeTroll]

If welfare parent is unable to work because they cannot pass a drug test this seems to point to their lack of fitness to be a parent.  Perhaps those rights should be terminated.

[Sigma]

^^ And how about neutering?

[Coolyfett]

Biweekly drug testing.
You fail, you are banned in your lifetime from receiving either.

Also increase the min you can receive. As people will fail leaving the difference enough to increase.



any takers?

Why is unemployment on the list? Most people on welfare are women, most that benefit from child support are women. Thesw are 3 different situatuons. Where does foodstamps fall in? Could you clarify the agenda here?

[Coolyfett]

Legally, child support is provided for the benefit of the child (yes, I know, sometimes the child doesn't benefit as much as it should).  Therefore, cutting off child support because a parent failed a drug test would never fly.

I thought CS was a garnished wage....

[JeffreyS]

2009
Human Resources
$789 billion:
• Health/Human Services
• Soc. Sec. Administration
• Education Dept.
• Food/Nutrition programs
• Housing & Urban Dev.
• Labor Dept.
• other human resources.

Are we really fusing that the government spends less than 1/3rd of it's budget on our country's citizens?

[Sigma]

If welfare parent is unable to work because they cannot pass a drug test this seems to point to their lack of fitness to be a parent.  Perhaps those rights should be terminated.

It seems more like that employers shouldnt be allowed to demand a citizens pee or blood to determine what they do in their private time.

I think those 'rights' should be pretty much terminated.

Not the right to be poor and have children.

Ooops!  Another intellectual hernia for Stephen.

BTW, before I am attacked for my previous post - jk

[BridgeTroll]

It seems more like that employers shouldnt be allowed to demand a citizens pee or blood to determine what they do in their private time.

I think those 'rights' should be pretty much terminated.

Not the right to be poor and have children.

I have nothing against being poor and having children... many of us began that way.  Builds character IMHO.  I am talking about the strings that may be attached for recieving government assistance.  All that is being asked is that if you want government assistance you abide by a few simple rules.  Forgoing drug use during "private time" (with the kids?)being one of them.

[JagFan07]

The "Fair Tax" is the best solution for poverty. The argument that the poor don't pay taxes is only true of Income tax. They still get hit with SS/Medicaid taxes of 7.65%, the employer match 7.65%, and if you consider the poor are spending 100% of their income (no tax free savings), they are hit with embedded taxes on the price of the goods they buy of 23%. Our government is taxing it's poorest citizens at over a 38% rate, the problem is it is not transparent. Out of sight out of mind.