New Convenience Store

[jason_contentdg]

At the time of that email it was probably correct.  As of right now, Silas has deferred and will submit for the January meeting.

Lake do you know if this is true?

Which part are you inquiring about being true?

[jason_contentdg]

Yes, it had been placed on the agenda for this month, unknowingly to us, contentdg. After talking to Silas this past Monday (the day the new site plan was forwarded to us) we felt strongly that similar uneasy steps were being taken just as they were before the December meeting. 

We would like for Silas to have a package that shows the site plan,and renderings of what the car wash will be to all involved parties before the actual meeting and think that if he has chance for approval, he'll need to do just that.  Silas agreed and said he would defer.

[jason_contentdg]

Thanks Stephen...

It was a good week for the Urban Facelift Project, with the competition at ArtWalk and the article that followed in the Times Union.  It was nice to see some fellow designers using the Urban Facelift Project model, and coming up with some really nice work for the event.   

[chris farley]

Well I am going to be a troll since once again we stoop to vilify (spelling).  the car wash will rise or fall on its own merits I do not care if the owner is purple.  I love having 3 layers near to me, just adore it, but I would not want a car wash, sorry, and many of the supporters would not want a car wash right up against their side fence either, but speech is free.  I am staying neutral on this issue, (but I do find it hard to believe the $500,000 )if it goes in sobeit, if it does not go in for legit reasons sobeit, but you know what let the fight begin after the holidays, "we let in light and we banish shade"  this from an agnostic - I think, see the other forum.
BUT;
It's Christmastime,
there's no need to be afraid
At Christmastime,
we let in light and we banish shade
And in our world of plenty
we can spread a smile of joy
Throw your arms around the world
at Christmastime

But say a prayer,
pray for the other ones
At Christmastime it's hard,
but when you're having fun
There's a world outside your window,
and it's a world of dread and fear
Where the only water flowing
is the bitter sting of tears
And the Christmas bells that ring there
are the clanging chimes of doom
Well tonight thank God it's them
instead of you

And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmastime
The greatest gift they'll get this year is life (Oooh)
Where nothing ever grows
No rain or rivers flow
Do they know it's Christmastime at all?

[Sportmotor]

Oh so you sing a Christmas song but not a Hanukkah song huh?

[chris farley]

I can sing one but I cannot spell the words.  I taught nursery school in a Conservative Temple in Lexington Mass and so enjoyed all the high holidays, the school was non sectarian but on holidays we watched the small children.  At Purim I made Esther and Mordicah and I made Hamen the garbage pail,  I believe my great great grandmother was Jewish and I have great great admiration for the religion.  I love being raised a wasp, but I do not know what I believe.
I am sending some Hanukkah cards.

[Sportmotor]

but you still cant post one eh?

I see how it is



anti semite
next you will be telling me you wont type any quanza songs either!

[Karl_Pilkington]

you wanna Chanukkah song?... here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrd9p47MPHg

[sheclown]

The car wash is across the street from a halfway house and a rooming house.  They are okay with it being there.  The car wash has been there for a long time -- anyone moving in could have anticipated its use to continue to be commercial.

We live in a city.  City things happen.  

[Johnny]

Springfield isnt sure they want an older African American business owner to open his Car Wash on Main Street

And again, you categorize Springfield residents as being racist. As I pointed out in the previous thread that you made that claim, it's really ironic that all of these racists would move to the most diverse neighborhood that I know of in Jacksonville. Maybe they did it so they could hate their neighbors?

[Johnny]

PS. there are quite a few residents of Springfield in this very thread supporting the car wash (me being one of them) and I don't think race has any play in the support either.

[chris farley]

i cheated I looked one up, the only one I know in Hebrew is not a chanakah song

Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who has sanctified us with His commandments, and commanded us to kindle the Chanukah light.

Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who performed miracles for our forefathers in those days, at this time.

Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who has granted us life, sustained us, and enabled us to reach this occasion

[Sportmotor]

I was just being a smart ass man lol

[thelakelander]

The short of it is that a car wash on 4th street, next to residences, isn't something that everyone wants. For various reasons, and others would welcome it for various reasons.

Considering that the building is in the middle of a commercial corridor and has been a car wash facility since 1955, there are other underlying reasons.  If it were a super intense use like 3rd & Main, which would add more traffic to that corner, people would not be complaining.  Right or wrong, a vocal minority had (and most likely still do) have trust issues with the owner and use.  If everyone could look at every project with an open mind and engage in open dialouge with each other, we'll find that the revitalization process will move much faster and the entire community would reap the benefits.  

Imo, false information, trust, not understanding how zoning works & revitalization process ignorance are the larger factors that must be overcome.  This project just brings these issues to the light.  I'm glad this thing has been deferred.  Hopefully, logic on all sides will enter the picture and will result in something that the entire community will be proud of.

[Karl_Pilkington]

Springfield isnt sure they want an older African American business owner to open his Car Wash on Main Street

And again, you categorize Springfield residents as being racist. As I pointed out in the previous thread that you made that claim, it's really ironic that all of these racists would move to the most diverse neighborhood that I know of in Jacksonville. Maybe they did it so they could hate their neighbors?

generalities like that sweep the good with the bad.... like Jason with Content Design is a Springfield resident and he's involved with SPAR but he's obviously not a racist...neither are any of his immediate neighbors.. so throwing out generalizations like that is the work of forum trolls, so please try to refrain from doing that, thank you.